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post #1006 of 1621
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


For the theory is like you mentioned above
I can not explaned more what you wrote above
In My experiance i have noticed the SQ different that so Far Toshiba Exceria is My best micro SD Card
I Had compared to San disk , kingstone and Other brand
Please try The Toshiba Exceria and compare With Your existing now .
My goal hear on head fi that For new bie can direct buy the Good ones
IMO

 

There never was a theory, the fact is an SDCard is just an exact storage device. What you store in the card is exactly what you get. The only real difference is the write/read speed between 2 cards which does not matter for music playback.

 

You can always hear a difference when you choose to. This one will easily fail a blind AB testing.

post #1007 of 1621
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Originally Posted by headwhacker View Post
 

 

There never was a theory, the fact is an SDCard is just an exact storage device. What you store in the card is exactly what you get. The only real difference is the write/read speed between 2 cards which does not matter for music playback.

 

You can always hear a difference when you choose to. This one will easily fail a blind AB testing.

 

I think it's better to respect others for what they here rather than dictate authoritatively that they're wrong. Maybe it's better for you to share what your experiences are with whatever equipment you've tried.

 

Personally for me, I tried but I couldn't hear any difference between my lower ended cards (admittedly not Toshiba), to my higher ended cards. However aside from Rudi, I think others may have claimed to have heard differences too. That's good for them.

 

Similarly, I couldn't hear any differences in using different branded batteries either, nor could I tell the difference between WAV & FLAC (both same sampling). In fact, I have lossy AAC 192kbps ripped iTunes 4.0 tracks that sound as good as current iTunes 11(??) ripped ALAC and even had some Team Tokyo members listen and couldn't point out to me the difference (but the catch is that it's only iTunes 4.0...things changed with iTunes 7.0 lossy AAC 192kbps).

 

However, it's not for me to say Rudi or others are wrong these cards or batteries. All I can say is that's good for them, it's merely not my experience.

post #1008 of 1621

Agreed, everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone hears things differently.  I purchased a Toshiba 16gb card and I also have a 64gb Samsung pro (up to 70 mb/s read) however I haven't had an opportunity to try either yet.  I also have a 128gb micro sd sandisk card coming if Amazon ever decides to ship it. 

post #1009 of 1621

For what is worth I can say I did find some audible differences among micro SD cards in my R10 and between micro SD cards and internal memory. After thinking about it I thought it could be related to some jitter. Just my experience and opinion of course.

post #1010 of 1621
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

 

I think it's better to respect others for what they here rather than dictate authoritatively that they're wrong. Maybe it's better for you to share what your experiences are with whatever equipment you've tried.

 

Personally for me, I tried but I couldn't hear any difference between my lower ended cards (admittedly not Toshiba), to my higher ended cards. However aside from Rudi, I think others may have claimed to have heard differences too. That's good for them.

 

Similarly, I couldn't hear any differences in using different branded batteries either, nor could I tell the difference between WAV & FLAC (both same sampling). In fact, I have lossy AAC 192kbps ripped iTunes 4.0 tracks that sound as good as current iTunes 11(??) ripped ALAC and even had some Team Tokyo members listen and couldn't point out to me the difference (but the catch is that it's only iTunes 4.0...things changed with iTunes 7.0 lossy AAC 192kbps).

 

However, it's not for me to say Rudi or others are wrong these cards or batteries. All I can say is that's good for them, it's merely not my experience.

 

I don't see anything auhoritative about what I said I just said the fact about SD card. Like you said I don't hear any difference. I tried my uber fast SD card (which is what I used in my SLR) and the crappy/cheap ones. True the read speed is slower on the cheaper one, as you can notice a slight pause when changing track but nothing in terms of audible difference.

 

The thing here is some people read things here and readily accepts claims if not unchallenged. I am just challenging that claim and not my intention to disrespect anyone.

post #1011 of 1621
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Originally Posted by headwhacker View Post
 

 

I don't see anything auhoritative about what I said I just said the fact about SD card. Like you said I don't hear any difference. I tried my uber fast SD card (which is what I used in my SLR) and the crappy/cheap ones. True the read speed is slower on the cheaper one, as you can notice a slight pause when changing track but nothing in terms of audible difference.

 

The thing here is some people read things here and readily accepts claims if not unchallenged. I am just challenging that claim and not my intention to disrespect anyone.

 

Taken to PM.

post #1012 of 1621
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

I think it's better to respect others for what they here rather than dictate authoritatively that they're wrong. Maybe it's better for you to share what your experiences are with whatever equipment you've tried.

Personally for me, I tried but I couldn't hear any difference between my lower ended cards (admittedly not Toshiba), to my higher ended cards. However aside from Rudi, I think others may have claimed to have heard differences too. That's good for them.

Similarly, I couldn't hear any differences in using different branded batteries either, nor could I tell the difference between WAV & FLAC (both same sampling). In fact, I have lossy AAC 192kbps ripped iTunes 4.0 tracks that sound as good as current iTunes 11(??) ripped ALAC and even had some Team Tokyo members listen and couldn't point out to me the difference (but the catch is that it's only iTunes 4.0...things changed with iTunes 7.0 lossy AAC 192kbps).

However, it's not for me to say Rudi or others are wrong these cards or batteries. All I can say is that's good for them, it's merely not my experience.

Thank you Sean
post #1013 of 1621

Still waiting desperately for info on new firmware update in the near future, they really need to work on fixing this heavily bugged player

post #1014 of 1621

Is it really that bad?

 

I am still interested in the HDP R10 since none of the newer players seem to really have progressed beyond the sound quality, and still have pretty buggy UI's. DX50 volume problems, X5 problems with max number of files, etc etc.

 

Looks a bit slow in the youtube videos but other than that...?

post #1015 of 1621
It's not that bad at all.
post #1016 of 1621

Just a question for you R10 users.

When using over ear headphones, do you usually use Hi gain even if the cans are not to demanding impedance wise?

What I am asking, is if you find the R10 sounds better in Hi gain, low volume, or Lo gain and higher volume?

 

Cheers!

post #1017 of 1621
Hi gain sounds better no matter how efficient the load is.
post #1018 of 1621
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Originally Posted by Jazzyfi View Post

Hi gain sounds better no matter how efficient the load is.

i use high gain only with fullsize cans and notice that everything comes forward but for CIEM i don't really consider switching to high gain. Do you think it would be better to use CIEM with high gain setting? aren't they supposed to use with lower gain setting to start with?


Edited by gearofwar - 4/12/14 at 12:22am
post #1019 of 1621
High gain setting is always better because it has more voltage in the rail supply of the opamp. Try it and you will for sure hear a difference.
post #1020 of 1621
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Originally Posted by Jazzyfi View Post

High gain setting is always better because it has more voltage in the rail supply of the opamp. Try it and you will for sure hear a difference.

 

Well your headphone will not take more voltage than it can actually take regardless of the gain. using the high gain also raises the noise floor. For ciem, sure you can use the high gain but you are giving up volume mileage. Also if it's too sensitive you will hear the noise floor.

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