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post #451 of 3623
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Just bought the 000 cable for my soon to arrive (I hope) MH335DW.........normal_smile .gif
Yeah, crazy that you still do not have it...
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I'm waiting for my Whiplash Audio TWAG-TWCU Hybrids for my 335s :)

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I've had the 335s with me for more than 5 months, am I the only one here leaning towards the sound of TG334?
Just a few days after I got the 335s last Oct, I stupidly left my TG334s on the flight on the way back from vacation thus had to live with 335s ever since. Until recently I found myself can't help missing the sound of 334s and bought another pair. Now I'm more than happy with the new 334s(more expensive than the first one which is painful) even after have been with 335s for couple of months.
If I were to be able to keep one of them, I'd probably go for the 334s although the 335s costs more.
post #454 of 3623
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I've had the 335s with me for more than 5 months, am I the only one here leaning towards the sound of TG334?
Just a few days after I got the 335s last Oct, I stupidly left my TG334s on the flight on the way back from vacation thus had to live with 335s ever since. Until recently I found myself can't help missing the sound of 334s and bought another pair. Now I'm more than happy with the new 334s(more expensive than the first one which is painful) even after have been with 335s for couple of months.
If I were to be able to keep one of them, I'd probably go for the 334s although the 335s costs more.

 

Cost doesn't mean "better". It may mean it may be technically more proficient, but audio is a very subjective area. We all have different ears, we all hear things different. What matters, is that you find something you like, whether it is iBuds, a mid-tier (price wise) earphone, or a top of the line custom etc. Everyone prices things (values) differently as well. For example, one may have no interest in audio, and so a cheaper option is "better" in their minds etc. 

 

I'm sure you aren't alone in choosing the financially lower option though. Plenty of people appreciate different earphones all the time! :)

post #455 of 3623
to me, the 335s and TG334s share similar sound signature whereas the major differences are:

1,Bass
the bass is the first thing obvious enough to differentiate them from each other. the 335s got more dominant bass then that of the 334s, sometimes even a bit too dominant to intrude the mid-range a bit, it also means the 335s are not as friendly as the 334s on the source/amp to drive them. However one can never say the 334s lack of bass, actually the bass of the 334s is quite impressive compared to other IEMs, just not as impressive as that of its big brother, and based my experience, it has less potential when paired up with a high-end amp compared to the 335s ob this front.

2, Mid-range
the mids is a even more important factor which leads to my conclusion,the best part I'm obsessed with about the 334s. the 334s got a rich,smooth,lush mids that few IEMs even headphones can compete with, quite close to that of my Stax Omega II. The mids of the 335s sounds even richer and fuller however it is not as "clean" as that of the 334s, I suspect it's due to the 335s got more BA units inside so that the mids is reproduced by more than a single unit in the 335s.

3, Treble
the 334s got a more shining treble which makes it sounds more alive, however, I'm not saying the 335s lack of treble extension, just not as obvious. and same suspect here, it could be different with a high-end amp.

4, Sound stage/positioning
This is the part confuses me a lot which I need the thoughts of other 335s owners.
I found the soundstage of the 334s is noticably fuller, more spacious and more complete. And the 334s got better positioning as well. The soundstage of the 335s sounds a bit separated and jammed and I found it's difficult to have an "imaginary" full picture of the stage out of the 335s when it's relatively easy with the 334s.
post #456 of 3623
to put it in a nutshell:

the 335s are more analytical while the 334s are more laid-back and easy to drive.

to me, I'm more than happy with the 334s for casual listening, leave the 335s for more serious head-fiers lol.
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nickif thanks for the in depth comparison. Yours might be the very first I've read that goes that deep into comparing those 2 in detail. 

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Thank you for your detailed impressions on the 335 versus 334. Much appreciated by myself (and others, I'm sure).

 

I must confess, that description makes the 335 sound rather awful!

 

Admittedly I'm also a little confused as to how the 335 can be described as simultaneously "more analytical," yet also be said to have a bass that bleeds into the midrange and mids that are even fuller and less clean than the 334. Likewise the 334 is also more alive due to more treble presence, but also "more laid back?"

 

Could be a difference in terminology leading to the confusion on my part.


Edited by MuppetFace - 4/3/13 at 10:02am
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I'm still waiting for my 335 (they should be on the way now, according to FitEAR), but my listening session's results with the universal units are not agreeing with Nickif's first post.

 

The 334's amount of bass isn't that far off from the 335's, however there's a slight upper/mid-bass bump that gets in the way of the mids. By contrast, the 335's double bass driver configuration gives a better delineated bass contour. My comment to Mr. Suyama was "bass is definitely there, but doesn't get in the way when not necessary". As a consequence, the mids are also cleaner on the 335, while sharing a common voicing with the 334. My test tracks for treble gave me more sparkles on the 335, but I have more tolerance for that kind of things than most, I think. As a reference, the 335 reminded a lot of the HE500 which I was using with velours pads at the time. I made myself some Jergpads which I like a lot, and I think the results are even closer now.

 

Again, these comments are based on universal units, from my T51 Line Out and Pico Slim. I'll see whether these results are confirmed with the custom unit, but I'm quite confident.

 

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Thank you for your detailed impressions on the 335 versus 334. Much appreciated by myself (and others, I'm sure).

 

I must confess, that description makes the 335 sound rather awful!

 

Admittedly I'm also a little confused as to how the 335 can be described as simultaneously "more analytical," yet also be said to have a bass that bleeds into the midrange and mids that are even fuller and less clean than the 334. Likewise the 334 is also more alive due to more treble presence, but also "more laid back?"

 

Could be a difference in terminology leading to the confusion on my part.

post #460 of 3623
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Thank you for your detailed impressions on the 335 versus 334. Much appreciated by myself (and others, I'm sure).

I must confess, that description makes the 335 sound rather awful!

Admittedly I'm also a little confused as to how the 335 can be described as simultaneously "more analytical," yet also be said to have a bass that bleeds into the midrange and mids that are even fuller and less clean than the 334. Likewise the 334 is also more alive due to more treble presence, but also "more laid back?"

Could be a difference in terminology leading to the confusion on my part.
+1. This review is very interresting, but not what I heard. I have the 334 now and only heard the 335 demo, but to me the 334 bass is not tight enough and definitely bleeds into the mids on certain tracks. I remember to have heard tighter bass on the 335....but of course I am not qualified as I do not have the 335 full custom yet. But if the bass is more boosted and bloated than the 334, I would not want it as it would be an all around musical pudding, and that is not what I remember. I remember a dynamic and sharp ciem with full yet controlled sound.
post #461 of 3623
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Thank you for your detailed impressions on the 335 versus 334. Much appreciated by myself (and others, I'm sure).

I must confess, that description makes the 335 sound rather awful!

Admittedly I'm also a little confused as to how the 335 can be described as simultaneously "more analytical," yet also be said to have a bass that bleeds into the midrange and mids that are even fuller and less clean than the 334. Likewise the 334 is also more alive due to more treble presence, but also "more laid back?"

Could be a difference in terminology leading to the confusion on my part.

yeah, it's hard to describe. To me, my 335s sounds a bit weird which I don't think should be the true performance of the current flagship of Fitear. I even doubted if there was a quality control issue when I just got it.

"Analytical" means the 335s are capable of providing all the details, all the punches,all the "wows", but not in the way as gentle, as refined, as "full-pictured" as the 334s do.
Maybe laid-back is not an appropriate description, should be "effortless". the 334s are overall brighter with more clarity due to more sparkling treble.
For the mids, the bass bleeding issue is quite obvious. I do think it is a serious problem because that will affect the imaging. I can never get a clear image of the singer on the 335s like I always do on the 334s.
I've tried the demo too, the sound is different from the full custom, at least the full custom will have more bass due to better seal.
post #462 of 3623
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

+1. This review is very interresting, but not what I heard. I have the 334 now and only heard the 335 demo, but to me the 334 bass is not tight enough and definitely bleeds into the mids on certain tracks. I remember to have heard tighter bass on the 335....but of course I am not qualified as I do not have the 335 full custom yet. But if the bass is more boosted and bloated than the 334, I would not want it as it would be an all around musical pudding, and that is not what I remember. I remember a dynamic and sharp ciem with full yet controlled sound.

hey buddy, bad news is: there will be more bass..but not bloated by any standard. agree with you the bass of 334s are not tight, sometimes even a bit loose, however that's why its mids are just beautiful!! the lesson to myself: sometimes it's hard to get a piece of everything, better know what you want the most.

Hope you enjoy your 335s.
post #463 of 3623
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I'm still waiting for my 335 (they should be on the way now, according to FitEAR), but my listening session's results with the universal units are not agreeing with Nickif's first post.

The 334's amount of bass isn't that far off from the 335's, however there's a slight upper/mid-bass bump that gets in the way of the mids. By contrast, the 335's double bass driver configuration gives a better delineated bass contour. My comment to Mr. Suyama was "bass is definitely there, but doesn't get in the way when not necessary". As a consequence, the mids are also cleaner on the 335, while sharing a common voicing with the 334. My test tracks for treble gave me more sparkles on the 335, but I have more tolerance for that kind of things than most, I think. As a reference, the 335 reminded a lot of the HE500 which I was using with velours pads at the time. I made myself some Jergpads which I like a lot, and I think the results are even closer now.

Again, these comments are based on universal units, from my T51 Line Out and Pico Slim. I'll see whether these results are confirmed with the custom unit, but I'm quite confident.

Best of luck with your 335s buddy, I almost want to send my 335s back to Mr. Suyama for a full checkup after reading yours.
just wondering how they test their custom IEMs before sending while the client himself is the only one in the world who's able to get what it's really like?
Edited by nickif - 4/3/13 at 1:08pm
post #464 of 3623
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Best of luck with your 335s buddy, I almost want to send my 335s back to Mr. Suyama for a full checkup after reading yours.
just wondering how they test their custom IEMs before sending while the client himself is the only one in the world who's able to get what it's really like?


Much appreciated, Nickif. I'll chime in, once I've received my unit.

 

Are you located close to Tokyo ? It wouldn't be a problem to come by FitEAR in Ginza and ask for a check. Are you getting a good fit with your customs ? You could try the Sensaphonics seal tests, to make sure everything's ok on that side.

 

I'm pretty sure the drivers are checked electrically to make sure the system is up to the standards, before being integrated in the ear pieces. After that, it's difficult to make a check according to the client's inner ear. I'm not privy to the details of the FitEAR's production method unfortunately, so maybe there's some other check.
 

post #465 of 3623
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Are you getting a good fit with your customs ? You could try the Sensaphonics seal tests, to make sure everything's ok on that side.

 production method unfortunately, so maybe there's some other check.

Bonjour. Would you please elaborate about this? Links?

 

Are you in the City of Lights?

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