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post #2566 of 3852
There may be another very good reason that FitEar avoids selling certain products globally. If a manufacturer sells on the global market they become subject to the consumer protection laws of buyer's country. Consumer laws very greatly from country to country. A recent example is the trouble Apple has has in Europe. In the US, there is no minimum warranty period for consumer electronics whereas in some European countries like Italy, a two year warranty is required by law and failure to comply can bring draconian fines and penalties. Sales to foreign countries also makes a seller amenable and subject to the jurisdiction of the buyer's country legal system if a dispute arises. Obviously, the more countries a product is sold to amplifies this problem.
post #2567 of 3852
Lukalop, thank you for your frank comments and we hope to welcome you one day as a fellow Fitear owner.
post #2568 of 3852
I think part of the reason lies at heart with culture. I was brought up with the influence of my parents, they were brought up from theirs and collectively my culture has passed down due to the location of my ancestry which is situated for the most part in Britain, whereas as I can only imagine how Japanese culture differs from others (including other Asian ethnicities) especially mine.

I have heard before amongst people that Japanese culture was unusual (in comparison to theirs), in how they view themselves as the supreme ethnicity. At the time, this to me seemed definitely racist (I will refrain from using this word now on). I now realise that just because a culture doesn't do things that are accustom to my culture, it doesn't mean they are rude are particularly in this case discriminating against others not of their own type. In the same way (although a different matter) to how I would not think it to be of any significance swearing casually with friends, it's the way I was raised. However I am sure there are a select few who would disagree that it is use of atrocious language which is fair enough. Just because we have conflicting opinions it doesn't particularly make either of us obnoxious.

As someone else explained, they (Japanese) do not view it in the sense of being rejective towards others, as it is accustom to them and part of their culture with different ways. So specifically going back to the case at hand, not allowing others outside of the Japanese culture to have a product seems absurd to me (the views of my culture) whereas this is normal for others (the views of their culture). I wouldn't like to delve any deeper though into this discussion & have uncovered the answers I was looking for. Although I cannot speak for everyone, this is what I have acknowledged about Japanese culture (at least on Suyama-San's behalf).

Again, if I do have the wrong end of the stick about this, I am not claiming it to be factual but am merely stating what I have understood.
post #2569 of 3852
Less culture talk and more gear talk will be highly appreciated, guys.
post #2570 of 3852
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

Less culture talk and more gear talk will be highly appreciated, guys.


I second and third that.

post #2571 of 3852
At the end of the day, a company can choose where it wishes to set up a presence and do business directly or through an agent. I believe we have gone through this debate previously.

I do not see the utility of revisiting this issue. Can we move on already?
post #2572 of 3852
I have a Q for 335 owners: when you received your custom, did you find it warmer or there to be more bass emphasis than the demo unit?

Thanks, guys!
post #2573 of 3852
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Originally Posted by Kiats View Post

I have a Q for 335 owners: when you received your custom, did you find it warmer or there to be more bass emphasis than the demo unit?

Thanks, guys!

I can smell some1 itchy hand again
post #2574 of 3852
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Kiats View Post

I have a Q for 335 owners: when you received your custom, did you find it warmer or there to be more bass emphasis than the demo unit?

Thanks, guys!

 

In my experience, yes. I actually was concerned about that and got the FR chart for the demo units & my CIEM. FR chart shows they're not. Therefore the other possible conclusion is that I didn't have such a good seal with the universal demos as I did with the CIEM.

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Originally Posted by veuxtres View Post

I can smell some1 itchy hand again

Purely in the pursuit of knowledge. smily_headphones1.gif You just received yours. What are your thoughts?
post #2576 of 3852
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

In my experience, yes. I actually was concerned about that and got the FR chart for the demo units & my CIEM. FR chart shows they're not. Therefore the other possible conclusion is that I didn't have such a good seal with the universal demos as I did with the CIEM.

Thanks, AnakChan. I managed to get a good seal today by use of some eartips. It was an interesting match with the neutral sig of the AK240
post #2577 of 3852
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

 

In my experience, yes. I actually was concerned about that and got the FR chart for the demo units & my CIEM. FR chart shows they're not. Therefore the other possible conclusion is that I didn't have such a good seal with the universal demos as I did with the CIEM.

That's understandable. Given the same frequency response of the 2 units, the universal/demo unit will slightly shift towards the upper end due to its shallow insertion (technically there will be more resonance within 7-10khz). Hence the warmer signature perception of the custom unit.

post #2578 of 3852
I find the demo sounds quite faithful to the custom (minus the seal)
But once you get the proper seal of a customed 335, their ability to render bass is just incredible.
I've still yet to try it with an SW cable, according to Anakchan and MTTF review, it can still be further improved!
post #2579 of 3852
Re: custom 335 vs demo 335.
I'm not sure myself, because I didn't go back and compare them once I received my custom unit. From what I remember, the demo units did a decent job of conveying the overall tonal balance and flavour. The custom unit simply improved upon all those features and brought some qualities of it's own - more extended bass and treble (especially bass), bigger soundstage, slightly warmer vocals. To my ears it was quite a significant jump. The demo made me think of the 335 as a great complement to my desktop, but the custom 335 has made me seriously consider selling off my entire desktop rig. Whether that's due to seal, placebo effect, different cable (001 vs 000) or genuine technical advantages of the custom build, I cannot say.
post #2580 of 3852
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Originally Posted by Lukalop View Post

I think part of the reason lies at heart with culture. I was brought up with the influence of my parents, they were brought up from theirs and collectively my culture has passed down due to the location of my ancestry which is situated for the most part in Britain, whereas as I can only imagine how Japanese culture differs from others (including other Asian ethnicities) especially mine.

I have heard before amongst people that Japanese culture was unusual (in comparison to theirs), in how they view themselves as the supreme ethnicity. At the time, this to me seemed definitely racist (I will refrain from using this word now on). I now realise that just because a culture doesn't do things that are accustom to my culture, it doesn't mean they are rude are particularly in this case discriminating against others not of their own type. In the same way (although a different matter) to how I would not think it to be of any significance swearing casually with friends, it's the way I was raised. However I am sure there are a select few who would disagree that it is use of atrocious language which is fair enough. Just because we have conflicting opinions it doesn't particularly make either of us obnoxious.

As someone else explained, they (Japanese) do not view it in the sense of being rejective towards others, as it is accustom to them and part of their culture with different ways. So specifically going back to the case at hand, not allowing others outside of the Japanese culture to have a product seems absurd to me (the views of my culture) whereas this is normal for others (the views of their culture). I wouldn't like to delve any deeper though into this discussion & have uncovered the answers I was looking for. Although I cannot speak for everyone, this is what I have acknowledged about Japanese culture (at least on Suyama-San's behalf).

Again, if I do have the wrong end of the stick about this, I am not claiming it to be factual but am merely stating what I have understood.


Plain and simple, you have understood wrong. I agree move on from this silly topic to something more tangible like the actual products themselves.

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