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post #1786 of 4916

I think Mim can be right, 846 seems like sharing similarities. However I read horrible things about 846, like, seriously the treble doesn't extend further than 10k?

 

Also Mim, what about the Vision Ears demos? Maybe Stage 4 can have a similar sound signature?

post #1787 of 4916
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

I think Mim can be right, 846 seems like sharing similarities. However I read horrible things about 846, like, seriously the treble doesn't extend further than 10k?

 

Also Mim, what about the Vision Ears demos? Maybe Stage 4 can have a similar sound signature?


Stage 4 is not too far off, mostly in the smoothness, but clearly not as bassy as 335.

 

846 trebble is just fine to my ears IF YOU USE WHITE FILTERS.

post #1788 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 


Stage 4 is not too far off, mostly in the smoothness, but clearly not as bassy as 335.

 

846 trebble is just fine to my ears IF YOU USE WHITE FILTERS.

Wow, you made me interested in those, I trust your opinions and ears :happy_face1: Can 846 best 335 in bass capabilities?

post #1789 of 4916
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

Wow, you made me interested in those, I trust your opinions and ears :happy_face1: Can 846 best 335 in bass capabilities?


There is no best. The 846 bass is much tighter, the 335 bass is much boomier but still great quality. Depends what you like. In reference to your SE5, I would say all three have comparable bass quality but all VERY different quantity and type of bass.

 

SE5 is only slightly boosted in mid and sub bass, but not overly so, quite close to neutral and very well texture. 846 bass has a boost and awesome punch, really kicks in your skull, but remains tight and does not step on the mids (with white filter once again). 335 bass is even more boosted, will have your skull rattle, is a bit looser, coming in waves.

 

In terms of quantity of bass: 335 > 846 > SE5 > NT6 (neutral level of bass to my ears).

post #1790 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 


There is no best. The 846 bass is much tighter, the 335 bass is much boomier but still great quality. Depends what you like. In reference to your SE5, I would say all three have comparable bass quality but all VERY different quantity and type of bass.

 

SE5 is only slightly boosted in mid and sub bass, but not overly so, quite close to neutral and very well texture. 846 bass has a boost and awesome punch, really kicks in your skull, but remains tight and does not step on the mids (with white filter once again). 335 bass is even more boosted, will have your skull rattle, is a bit looser, coming in waves.

 

In terms of quantity of bass: 335 > 846 > SE5 > NT6 (neutral level of bass to my ears).

Well it would be nice to try something with great rumble and boost like 335 without sacrificing from the quality. Too bad FitEar doesn't care about Eu. Anyway, thanks for the explanation Mim, I think I should stick to my ciem for a long while and upgrade the other parts of my audio chain.

post #1791 of 4916
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So Roxanne is higher step or side step, in your opinion?

Just arrived in Thailand for vacation. I have similar opinion as AnakChan that there are certain frequency range that Roxanne is very sensitive. I can't listen to it for more than 90 min. To me, Roxanne is kind of analytical while 335DW is more fun to listen. 

post #1792 of 4916
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Just arrived in Thailand for vacation. I have similar opinion as AnakChan that there are certain frequency range that Roxanne is very sensitive. I can't listen to it for more than 90 min. To me, Roxanne is kind of analytical while 335DW is more fun to listen. 


Thank you. I think I can remove Roxanne from my list than. I am not sure though, I don't like JHA much but that variable bass system can be fun.

post #1793 of 4916

I think some people here have too much expectation from FitEar, they are not some mythical creature that grants you everything you wanted. Just that if you like their sound signature, it is hard to find comparable ones.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love my MH334. But I do prefer my 334 over 335DW, so does 435 and 333 over the 335DW. Give them a listen before you order, words alone can't describe everything.

post #1794 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Ra97oR View Post
 

I think some people here have too much expectation from FitEar, they are not some mythical creature that grants you everything you wanted. Just that if you like their sound signature, it is hard to find comparable ones.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love my MH334. But I do prefer my 334 over 335DW, so does 435 and 333 over the 335DW. Give them a listen before you order, words alone can't describe everything.


I don't think anyone has implied that FitEar is mythical, but if you look at their line up of CIEMs, there are very few companies that can match what they have and in terms of overall quality and workmanship.

 

I do agree, words alone are not enough to make a decision if you are spending over $1k on a pair of CIEMs. It took me nearly 6 months of research including reading and of course demoing a number of CIEMs before deciding on the 335s. At that point I had determined my sig and what I was drawn to. The warmth and bass of the 335s fit me perfectly. I am drawn to the bass and drums always when I listen to music so it was natural to be drawn to the 335s. But for others it may be a different story.

 

Anyone who purchases a pair of CIEMs without demoing a number of them is simply foolish.

post #1795 of 4916
Actualy, I'd question whether demo units are even good enough in conveying the sound sig of a their custom counterparts. I've owned the 335DW for little more than a week now (no impressions yet because I'm waiting for the "new toy syndrome" to die out first), and from what I recall, the demo unit I tried sounded quite different. It wasn't night and day in terms of signature (both were warmish), but the soundstage (or perceived soundstage, as some call it) is very different. The custom-made one conveys far greater depth. Also recall the demo unit presenting the upper bass and lower mids in a slightly more veiled fashion compared to my custom unit, which is clear as crystal at all frequencies.

Strangely, I've struggled with getting good bass response from a lot of demo units I've tried. Fwiw, I was interested in the JH16 at first, since I'm a bit of a basshead. When I got to try the JH Freqphase demo models (13, 16, etc) at a recent show, I found the JH16's bass to be a bit too muddy and laggard compared to what I was used to. Also tried the JH13 and the low frequencies, while cleaner than the JH16, still didn't quite register with me the way I'd like. There seemed to be a complete lack of layering and texture. They told me that it might have been because those were universal demo models and that a custom-made pair would definitely not exhibit those issues. That may well have been true, since many people more experienced with CIEMs rate the JH 13/16 models quite highly, but there was no way I was going to risk spending that much on my first CIEM without knowing what it would truly sound like. Maybe my opinion would have changed if I managed to get hold of Jerry and ask him personally, but he was busy at the time with some other people.

Then I moved to the Fitear booth and tried all their demos. The 335DW was the one that I liked the most (also tried the 334 and 435). There was something about it that was slightly Audeze LCD-like (the old Audeze, before the new characterless Fazor crap) - like a cross between the character of a LCD2 and the detail of a LCD3, but without the veil. Still had some reservations with regards to soundstage, but I was so taken by the 335's sound that it was stuck in my head as I was visiting other booths at the show. Whatever headphone/iem I demo'ed after that, I kept thinking back to the 335. Took it as a sign and decided to put down an order (you can imagine the shock I got when they told me how much a 335 cost) and get my impressions done. Thankfully, the reservations I had about the soundstage and comfort from the demo unit quickly vanished the first day I received the custom pair.

Enjoying the 335DW immensely right now. Hardly listened to my beloved TH900 for the past week. As I said, impressions will come later after the new toy excitement dies down, but I'm very happy with these being my first customs. There's an almost tube-like tone that I hear from them (might be the 000 cable), and that's with them driven straight from my iPhone. Possibly not as much bass as I'd like (remember, I'm a TH900 guy) if you asked me to nit-pick, but it's not so bad and I don't really mind EQ'ing on a portable setup.
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Edited by kurochin - 1/16/14 at 9:32am
post #1796 of 4916

My friend bought a 000 cable too, eager to find out the differences.

post #1797 of 4916
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Having listened to the 335, I do not think anything can sound like it. I do think the 846 has some similarities.
imo,435 share a lot more similarities with 846 compared to 335, specially the presentation of upper mid/lower treble region. 846 to my ears sounds like a smaller, but bassier 435.
846's treble does roll off pretty bad(even with the lightest bass filters). The sound above 10k is very muffled(some may consider it as "real")

But I totally agree on the bass of 335, it's no doubt a bassy CIEM with "always-on" mid-upper bass

I heard fit ear is introducing a new product this year. Any info on that?
post #1798 of 4916
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post


imo,435 share a lot more similarities with 846 compared to 335, specially the presentation of upper mid/lower treble region. 846 to my ears sounds like a smaller, but bassier 435.
846's treble does roll off pretty bad(even with the lightest bass filters). The sound above 10k is very muffled(some may consider it as "real")

But I totally agree on the bass of 335, it's no doubt a bassy CIEM with "always-on" mid-upper bass

I heard fit ear is introducing a new product this year. Any info on that?


Only if it is universal I can be interested, otherwise no go for European customers :frown:

post #1799 of 4916
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Only if it is universal I can be interested, otherwise no go for European customers frown.gif

Which I must admit is too bad, they do have a different way of getting impressions (wiggle your jaw), but it would be nice to have more avenues to get FitEar CIEMs
post #1800 of 4916
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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post


Which I must admit is too bad, they do have a different way of getting impressions (wiggle your jaw), but it would be nice to have more avenues to get FitEar CIEMs


Yep, after a long research and thinking about possibilities, I admitted and accepted that, no FitEar ciem for European unless you happen to visit there. So I am only interested in their universals but all my life I was unlucky with universal iems, their comfort, seal, fit.. They were never satisfying. I found the pleasure in ciems (SE5way) and I think I won't buy universals anymore. Only FitEar can change this so I am waiting to see what they will do better than TG334.

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