Hisoundaudio ROCOO BA - Superior Hi-Fi player for Ciem's & Iem's - Page 24

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Originally Posted by anoxy 

So if I got this to use as my portable rig (powering CIEMs), I wouldn't need any external amps/dacs in conjunction? 

 

So I'd be able to sell my Headstage Arrow?

Not really, it always depends on your taste. 
PS:Keep your arrow, it is a great unit. 

Yeah, I think I will. I love my Arrow+iPod combo, except playing Lossless files on the iPod really drains the battery. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by anoxy 

Yeah, I think I will. I love my Arrow+iPod combo, except playing Lossless files on the iPod really drains the battery. Oh well.

I listen to arrow a long while ago, it was enough for me to perorder it, the preorder part sucked, so I cancelled it. I dont think he will make any more product, keep it and consider yourself lucky.

BTW arrow and rocoo BA have a comparable dimension, if you dont mind the UI it is a nice sounding DAP. Or you can wait for their new product which has multiple times better UI with sound comparable to Rocoo BA. 

Have a read here http://www.head-fi.org/forum/newestpost/629679

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Originally Posted by anoxy 

So if I got this to use as my portable rig (powering CIEMs), I wouldn't need any external amps/dacs in conjunction? 

 

So I'd be able to sell my Headstage Arrow?

What will you be using it with? Generally speaking yes it should be fine. But synergy is also an important factor. I don't see this player pairing very well with bright Custom IEMs. If the treble is smooth on your IEM (darker) then yes it will pair very well. Generally speaking I find dynamic IEMs (darker ones) to pair really really well with hisound players. Unless you are a treble head then go for broke ;).

Haha well that is undecided at the moment. Potentially the 8.A, AS-2, or 1964 V6...

I only asked because somebody offered me a trade+cash for my 4.Ai, and if I didn't need my iPod and Arrow anymore with this, then I could sell them and put the extra cash towards my unicorn IEM, the 8.A

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Originally Posted by anoxy 

Haha well that is undecided at the moment. Potentially the 8.A, AS-2, or 1964 V6...

 

I only asked because somebody offered me a trade+cash for my 4.Ai, and if I didn't need my iPod and Arrow anymore with this, then I could sell them and put the extra cash towards my unicorn IEM, the 8.A

Why not try get the Nova player. At least from what Jack is saying it has the same sound quality as the Rocoo BA but in a slimmer form factor. Not quite as powerful but at 50mW of power that is noticeably stronger than your average DAP. An ipod is around 30mW generally. The newer touch models may be a bit more powerful but I wasn't able to find any information on the latest model mW rating.... Going off from 30mW to 50mW there is still a noticeable amount of extra juice even on the Nova player.

Considering you can preorder it and get it half off now from hisound (I think around $80.00 vs $160) it seems like a steel of a deal. :) If the 8As are indeed more laid back on the treble (smoother) I think it should do fine. I am also planning on getting the 8As myself. My price is locked in so I'm not in any particular rush to get them. But I have already committed to the buy quite some time ago. But if I had issues with them I was really considering the SE5 (the one I really want) or NT6.

I spent some time with the Rocoo BA and here are a few brief impressions:

The sound was good for an entry to mid tier dap, but design flaws made it unusable for me so I can't recommend it.

The sound beats the old 5th gen ipod I have by a bit for sound overall for clarity and balance. The problem? Basically, the batteries were always drained when I took it out of a pocket, briefcase or bag thanks to the non-recessed buttons and the lack of a hold option that freeze button function. It seems like a little thing, but it turns out to be quite a flaw. Other things: There was minor hiss and an interesting throb sound I heard a few times. The software could use some work to make it more seemless and as easy as an ipod, but having the thing run itself out in my bag takes away much of its primary functionality as a portable dap.

Solution: select Auto Shutdown to something like 5 minutes (in Settings menu), this way Rocoo BA will automatically shutdown after 5 minutes of being idle and preserve your battery. Now you can have it all! tight jeans + great dap

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Originally Posted by wormsdriver 

Solution: select Auto Shutdown to something like 5 minutes (in Settings menu), this way Rocoo BA will automatically shutdown after 5 minutes of being idle and preserve your battery. Now you can have it all! tight jeans + great dap

Yep I told him this in PM and maybe he'll give it another whirl ;). I also found this a problem even on my Studio V until I set it to auto shutdown and I haven't charged my battery in a month! (I'm known to forget turning it off all the time or I fall asleep with it on ;). UI still isn't perfect but via resource menu is very easy to use. The sound quality is so good that I could easily live with the minor quirks although that doesn't mean I don't want a better UI because I do ;).

Also regarding the volume possibly shooting up if you are concerned with this hold the middle button and go back to the top menu and let the screen shut off. I recommend putting the screen time out on minimal. This will prevent the volume from shooting up on you or randomly switching tracks due to those tight pants lol :P

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity 

But even if you use auto shut down feature isn't it just going to turn back in in the bag when the power button is bumped? I think he means there's no hold button to lock the keypad therefore it easily turns itself on?

It takes an effort H20 to turn the unit on. Pretty much you have to be smashing the buttons down (middle button) for that to happen. The point is even if this happens auto shutdown will shut down the player within 5 minutes of being on without activity and that is barely any drain on the battery at all. As a matter of fact H20 I've left my Studio V on without it playing music for a few days time and there was really not much drain at all to the battery. Maybe 1 bar. So it still would greatly extend the battery life opposed to having it turn on and then stay on because it is set to stay on permanently :). There is also a sleep feature on the unit which I've never used and that may also be used to some affect in his case :).

I wonder if I should try give the sleep feature a try? I've never seen any point in using it but now maybe Kunluns situation could be the reason they implemented it as well? I figured it was just a lazy man on an off switch yet also conserves battery life doing so... Still the minimum for that feature is 30 minutes but it would seem this would be a solution if the player manages to start playing all music in which it will not be idling lol.
 

Tight jeans aside. He has valid complaints. The auto turn off is enough for me and a solution to unintended turn on. Though auto turn off should fix the issue, someone with a continuing problem could contact cement a plastic washer around the center button which would still allow access but stop unintended pushing. While it can happen, this hasn't been a big issue with owners. Lee, I know you didn't have that unit long. Check it when it returns as when I got it, it was also out of battery and it came properly packed. I only had it a day and sent it on so I wouldn't know if all was well.

Sound is personal but the function stuff reported by Kunlun is spot on and will be of minor concern for some and not good for others. I think anybody buying in is aware of the UI and quirks at this point. They aren't major but they are there.