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post #226 of 348
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Originally Posted by Jung Woo Cho View Post

Is it worth upgrading to pure2 from duo that I just got 4 months ago? I'm using im02 iem with it. I think mine is the latest revised version if I'm not wrong.

Is it worth it? Quite an impossible question to answer, since for 99.99% of the worlds population buying a 500$ amp is DEFINITELY not worth it in the first place biggrin.gif
post #227 of 348
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Originally Posted by fiascogarcia View Post

Don't know about the newer versions, but the earlier ones suffered from channel imbalance at low volumes, and the fixed gain didn't provide enough volume control for sensitive iem's and headphones.  Duo doesn't have gain control, it has bass and treble boost, which actually worked better for lower sensitivity headphones.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!  Admittedly, I'm going by the research I did before I bought the Pure II.

No you are on it. A few corrections;

1. Both the original Duo and Pure had aggressive gains that made iem listening difficult. I did not recommend them for sensitive iems.

2. Bass and treble control of the Duo work for any phone just beautifully but the amp itself doesn't provide as much voltage as some amps. So while it can put a lot of volume into a pair of dt880/300, it won't put as much in strained volume into them as some competing amps. For this reason I say it is a better medium sensitive headphone amp.

3. Pure II is great for iem and headphones. Power output doesn't seem to have changed but iem targeting had. And it is wonderful.
post #228 of 348
In case anyone is interested I've listed my vorzuge duo on eBay.
post #229 of 348
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Is it worth it? Quite an impossible question to answer, since for 99.99% of the worlds population buying a 500$ amp is DEFINITELY not worth it in the first place biggrin.gif

haha i agree but well i think the price is justified by the sound it is capable of producing. this is different from all the other amps out there in my opinion. It really takes a back seat and let music stand out. Its very versatile across all genres and whatever music i throw at it, everything sounds just right which i thought never possible when using lower end models. If pure 2 is an upgrade from duo i might consider.

post #230 of 348

So essentially are pure 2 and duo very different beasts altogether or pure is just more refined than the duo?

post #231 of 348

My MINT condition VorzAmp Pure II is up for sale for only $450 (free shipping)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/717503/fs-mint-vorzuge-vorzamp-pure-ii-free-nikon-coolpix-s6100-free-shipping-final-price-drop

post #232 of 348

I must have the revised Duo amp as it works great with my JH16pros (although  I do hear a little floor noise with them until the music kicks in) but since my Sony ZX1 Walkman had an update which has tweaked the sound in a couple of areas that needed refining they are inseparable match and does negate the need for the Duo in this respect but I still need it to use the ZX1 if I want to drive my Sony 7520 cans efficiently.  

 

Can anyone shed any more light if the Pure II is worth selling up on the Duo to use with Jh16Pros and Sony 7520's/ MDR-R1's as I still have my old Sony X series which is a great pairing with the Duo.  

 

Have to admit since the ZX1 has had the magical update to the SQ I have not used the Duo that much for use with Iem's but it's still such a good amp I can't part with it although I could be persuaded!  

 

Would be grateful if anyone has heard both the Duo & Pure II with JH16pros and what the differences are in the SQ department.  

post #233 of 348
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Fortis: Do you use the bass/treble toggles? Are you annoyed by really high gain and often hurt your ears? Those are the two most important, defining questions to answer.

post #234 of 348
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Fortis: Do you use the bass/treble toggles? Are you annoyed by really high gain and often hurt your ears? Those are the two most important, defining questions to answer.

No to both.... as good as the treble & bass functions are the Duo has it takes away from the naturalness in balance for me although it helped (in a casual rather than reference listen)  when I had my bass light Sony Z1000 cans until I swapped them for the 7520's (what the Z1000's should of been) which rectified that side of things.  

 

Can't say the high gain has hurt my ears on these with the JH16's, not had that problem as it drives them okay at normal levels (approx 9-10 oclock?) but whether the Duo is getting the best out of the Jh16's with its pre-set gain setting I don't know....

post #235 of 348
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Fortis, the DUO is a fine amp. It is one of the highest performing amps on the market. The PURE II is marginally better. I think Vorzuge updated it to ensure IEM users are getting a safe listen. I wouldn't go about selling the DUO for a PURE II unless you had trouble with gain. I'm glad you are enjoying your JH16. Those are awesome earphones.

post #236 of 348
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
 

Fortis, the DUO is a fine amp. It is one of the highest performing amps on the market. The PURE II is marginally better. I think Vorzuge updated it to ensure IEM users are getting a safe listen. I wouldn't go about selling the DUO for a PURE II unless you had trouble with gain. I'm glad you are enjoying your JH16. Those are awesome earphones.

Don't I know it, out of all the portable amps I have listened to that have that blow you away feeling within the first minute of listening this amp done it and would not of came across it if it was not for a fellow head-fier who had the Pure mrkI at a Head-fi meet in London in April 2013.  

 

I was hoping they had upped the SQ a bit on the Pure II thinking it was maybe a next natural progressive improvement on the sound they already had, the extra cost of the Pure II can't be for just having a adjustable gain setting can it?  

 

This is why with the JH16's almost three years on now I have not felt the need to upgrade to a newer model for the sake of it, as a good recording and gear to match they sing all day long without fatigue.  

 

Don't worry, I will not rush out to to sell Duo for a Pure II any time soon currently especially as the ZX1 is a big step up from my X1060 and is awesome enough with the Jh16's so the Duo will be there for my full size headphones as Walkman cannot still drive them properly.  

post #237 of 348
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The PURE II is a better performing amp, but not world's different. The originals are great. Gain has changed, battery has changed, and there are some performance gains to be had. I'm not you so I can't tell you what you can or cannot do with your money, but to be honest, if you are happy, then stay that way. I would only suggest selling and rebuying if you were not happy with the gain or something else. But then, if you were unhappy, I can't imagine you wanting stay in the same family. 

 

Vorzüge has really made a stamp. If they keep it up, they may keep all of us until our ears fail. I have not tried the ZX1, but I own a number of Sony Walkmans. I won't comment on them here because my experience hasn't been great and I don't want to derail this thread.

post #238 of 348

Hi , shigzeo i have send  you a PM , asking you about the combo of the Pure II with the Iriver AK100 MKII , what do you think about this combination ? Thanks .

post #239 of 348
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I'll do my best to get with you soon. I don't have the MKII, so I can't talk about it so well. I've used that combo before at events and feel that it is very good. If you have the MKII, the PURE or DUO or PURE II not only fits the same footprint, it improves portions of the MKII's output that, under stress, fall apart.

post #240 of 348

Thank's for your reply , sorry but my English is very very bad . What do you mean about the MKII's output that, under stress, fall apart.?

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