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post #1651 of 3997

Just switched to HD 800 after an hour with T90's (Btlhd Crack + TS 5998 + Mullard Ecc82). Sounds a bit "lean" in comparison but the sound stage OMG :eek:, always amazes me. Fortunately Meier Daccord has a mid bass boost switch, flip it on & perfect :cool:. Guess there's no perfect HP :rolleyes: but there are ways to make them perfect for you ;) 

post #1652 of 3997
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Originally Posted by punit View Post
 

Just switched to HD 800 after an hour with T90's (Btlhd Crack + TS 5998 + Mullard Ecc82). Sounds a bit "lean" in comparison but the sound stage OMG :eek:, always amazes me. Fortunately Meier Daccord has a mid bass boost switch, flip it on & perfect :cool:. Guess there's no perfect HP :rolleyes: but there are ways to make them perfect for you ;) 

 

When I heard the HD 800 (I only spent a few hours with it, mind you) I also loved the sound stage, but I found myself thinking that the stage was almost too large compared to the T90. I remember hearing "echoes" from sounds bounding across the stage that shouldn't necessarily have them. Is this a problem you've noticed as an HD 800 owner? I've never noticed it with the T90

post #1653 of 3997
No haven't faced this problem. Only minor gripe is because of the huge sound stage maybe it sound's a bit lean (as in mids seem more pulled back)
post #1654 of 3997
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Originally Posted by punit View Post

No haven't faced this problem. Only minor gripe is because of the huge sound stage maybe it sound's a bit lean (as in mids seem more pulled back)


HD800 is very dependent on amping in that you hear the influence of your chain more than other headphones. Listening through the Schiit Vali, for example, the HD800 is very airy with the treble almost electrostatic like, but it is also thin sounding and not very dynamic, especially in the lower frequencies. The Crack is better at adding lushness to the music, but is still a relatively neutral amp. I found my personal preference is adding the chain as well. The Quickie has a very warm signature and with the PJCCS upgrade, you get the level of bass impact and tactility on the level of planars. Of course this added visceral experience is at the expense of airiness and microdetails. I noticed while all the details are still there, it's harder to pay attention to them, or at least you're less likely to pay attention to the microdetails because you're far more focused on the musicality of the sound, the body and weight of each guitar strum or piano note. I found that so far, you can have one or the other (tactility or microdetails) because to reach the threshold where you truly get to experience tactility, it will overwhelm the presence of airiness and microdetails.

 

It sounds to me you would favor a more tactile sound over an airy sound.

post #1655 of 3997

I find that with the Meier Daccord mid bass boost switch on, I do not lose any of the micro details but the mids have more weight. The purpose of the switch is actually not to be used as mid bass boost but it is to be used in conjunction with the crossfeed switch as there is a perceived drop in mid / lower mid frequencies when the crossfeed is activated, so it compensates for the same, but I use it without the crossfeed on as a mid bass boost when required.

 

Hmm....regarding your comment about my preference of tactile sound over an airy sound, yes I do like my Music (& Women) with a little bit of meat on their bones.:D

post #1656 of 3997
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Originally Posted by punit View Post
 

I find that with the Meier Daccord mid bass boost switch on, I do not lose any of the micro details but the mids have more weight. The purpose of the switch is actually not to be used as mid bass boost but it is to be used in conjunction with the crossfeed switch as there is a perceived drop in mid / lower mid frequencies when the crossfeed is activated, so it compensates for the same, but I use it without the crossfeed on as a mid bass boost when required.

 

Hmm....regarding your comment about my preference of tactile sound over an airy sound, yes I do like my Music (& Women) with a little bit of meat on their bones.:D

*High fives*

 

yea man, a pig headed and sexist as it sounds, I like my women with some meat on them bones to! The same applies to my music ;3 like some weight to my females! I mean sound 

 

but I like a nice tight weighty low end ;3 gatta love headphones 

post #1657 of 3997
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Originally Posted by Xickle View Post
 

I'm thinking of buying these. Can you guys talk me out of it, so I don't spend so much? :)

 

I was thinking DT880 or DT990 at first. How do the T90's compare to those two? I want to use em for gaming and listening to electronic music, perhaps mix a couple of tracks as a hobby.


I have recently bought the T90 from a seller at head-fi so its well burnt in and am absolutely loving them... I was playing "Last of us" with them on and genuinely felt that I was in the game world and was scared as hell on some parts of the game.... for music these are a little bright for my taste but can be easily fixed with eq....


Edited by pat1984 - 2/4/14 at 11:30pm
post #1658 of 3997
when I had my hd 800 I enjoyed the huge sound stage, but once you get it in your head that the sound stage is too large and in fact unnatural with certain music it will start to bother you every time you listen to vocals that are too far back..some music is already set back at a distance, and the 800 makes it seem too far back... the large soundstage suits classical music best..I have the T 90 and now the t1, and I think it is a perfect balance.
post #1659 of 3997

My Bottlehead Crack arrived and as reported by many in this thread, the Crack + T90's are an outstanding combination.  I also purchased some T1's and they also work really well with the Crack.

post #1660 of 3997
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Originally Posted by BlakeT View Post
 

My Bottlehead Crack arrived and as reported by many in this thread, the Crack + T90's are an outstanding combination.  I also purchased some T1's and they also work really well with the Crack.

:beerchug: And the Crack + T90 scale very well. It may seem crazy but the depth, resolution and imaging become spectacular when fed by a really good DDC+DAC. In my case it is JRiver MC -> ASIO USB -> RefLink -> V800 -> Crack -> T90. What an amazing combination.

post #1661 of 3997
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Originally Posted by atomicbob View Post
 

:beerchug: And the Crack + T90 scale very well. It may seem crazy but the depth, resolution and imaging become spectacular when fed by a really good DDC+DAC. In my case it is JRiver MC -> ASIO USB -> RefLink -> V800 -> Crack -> T90. What an amazing combination.

 

 

Agreed.  I am MBP running Audirvana > TotalDac usb cable/filter > Berkeley Alpha USB > Bel Canto DAC2.5 > Crack > T90/T1.

 

T90's and T1's are both terrific with different sound signatures, both of which are highly enjoyable.  They are different enough to me that I could see keeping both.

post #1662 of 3997
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Agreed.  I am MBP running Audirvana > TotalDac usb cable/filter > Berkeley Alpha USB > Bel Canto DAC2.5 > Crack > T90/T1.

T90's and T1's are both terrific with different sound signatures, both of which are highly enjoyable.  They are different enough to me that I could see keeping both.
Also a great chain, wow! I agree with your assessment of the T90/T1. I am keeping both along with HD800/HD600. HE-500 may stay, or it may go. WA7 seems to bring out the best in it.
post #1663 of 3997
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Originally Posted by atomicbob View Post

beerchug.gif  And the Crack + T90 scale very well. It may seem crazy but the depth, resolution and imaging become spectacular when fed by a really good DDC+DAC. In my case it is JRiver MC -> ASIO USB -> RefLink -> V800 -> Crack -> T90. What an amazing combination.

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Originally Posted by BlakeT View Post


Agreed.  I am MBP running Audirvana > TotalDac usb cable/filter > Berkeley Alpha USB > Bel Canto DAC2.5 > Crack > T90/T1.

T90's and T1's are both terrific with different sound signatures, both of which are highly enjoyable.  They are different enough to me that I could see keeping both.

Sorry for the ignorance, but why two DACs?
post #1664 of 3997
Berkeley Alpha USB & Reflink are USB interfaces and not dacs.
What he said. But more eloquent said. smily_headphones1.gif
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Edited by MrEleventy - 2/12/14 at 11:28am
post #1665 of 3997

They are USB to SPDIF converters . So the chain will be:

 

PC / MAC -------USB cable-----USB to SPDIF converter -------SPDIF cable--------DAC


Edited by punit - 2/12/14 at 11:28am
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