Beyerdynamic T90 Discussion and Support Thread
Sep 8, 2013 at 4:47 AM Post #947 of 4,487
Wait until you amp it properly 
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Sep 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM Post #948 of 4,487
Sep 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM Post #952 of 4,487
They aren't that great with Pop and EDM.
 
Amazing for Chill-out, Jazz, Classical (especially string orchestras).
 
I'm trying to get another of pair of headphones for my Pop/Rock/EDM listening.
 
My ears bleed when listening to Avicii.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb5VOQexMBU
 
Sep 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM Post #953 of 4,487
Thanks everyone.  For classical, I usually listen to violin featured chamber music.  You wouldn't say these are too bright, like violins end up being a bit piercing at louder volumes?  I've heard these are bright phones.
 
Sep 9, 2013 at 1:24 PM Post #955 of 4,487
  ethan they are marvelous with strings......
 
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+1; The sibilant part for me is usually with vocals, never with stringed elements.
 
E: Wanted to add that it's not sibilant with vocals, just that whenever I do notice some sibilant parts, it's usually in the vocals. It's definitely a lot smoother now than when I had it fresh outta the box. Clapton : One More Car makes me feel like I'm there with the T90s. 
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Sep 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM Post #956 of 4,487
Guys, you are making this very hard for me :)
I'm trying to see if these or the 712 Pro would be better for classical music, anyone have experience comparing them?
 
Also, one reason I don't like the X1 for classical is that I can hear the headphone parts creaking as I move my head.  It's a problem during soft passages.  Any such issue with the T90?
 
Sep 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM Post #957 of 4,487
The AKG 712s are the 702 Annies recolored. And the 702 Annies are just 702s w/ memory foam pads. Supposedly the pads adds a bit of bass but takes away from the soundstage. Best bet is look for 702/Annies vs T90 comparisons and you'll be 95% of the way there.
 
E: And no, no creaking issues whatsoever. :)
 
Sep 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM Post #958 of 4,487
I think the T90 has just enough brightness to sound realistic. I think too many people are comparing them to darker colored headphones, while the T90 is aims to remain faithful to the source.
I use them for primarily Jazz and Classical but the vocals of Sade, Lionel Richie and Phil Collins sounds great with no sibilence at all.
 
Sep 9, 2013 at 7:05 PM Post #960 of 4,487
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I had gotten T90 and Crack to use as my work setup while I used WA7 and HD700 at home, but I don't think I can do that anymore as I love the T90 + Crack way too much. Also I just end up getting lost in the music and being able to focus on work lol.
 
I also have an O2+ODAC and it's got nothing on the Crack.          *EDIT*
 
And this all without the speedball upgrade.
 
I guess you get an idea about what I think about the T90 with the Crack lol. But hey, maybe the it's not simply that pairing being so special. Maybe my ears are just wired to like this pairing. We're all wired differently ourselves, so only way to find out if it'll make such an impression on you is to try it out yourself.
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Welcome to the euphonic world of OTL amplifiers. I happen to like the sound of OTL topology myself. Enough that I own both a Woo WA3+, Crack (without speedball at this time) and have a Zana Deux SE on order. I enjoy HD800/600 and T90 with my current OTLs, especially with Chatham 2399 and 5998 tubes, though a GEC A1834 curved brown base sounds very very special.
 
Don't discount the WA7 yet. You are fortunate that you have many bases covered from a very good, transparent amp (O2+ODAC), to a well designed transformer output WA7 which is between transparent and euphonic and will drive low impedance cans. Then you have the Crack which gives you coverage at the mostly euphonic end of the sound spectrum while being amenable to tube rolling. Look for CBS 5814 (12au7) drive tubes. You also have many bases covered with the HD700 and T90. Probably an HE-500 planar or TH-900 to round out the headphone toolbox and you are set for a very long time with many sonic capabilities.
 

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