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post #286 of 2173

FYI for anyone who is interested, the T90s are now showing up on Amazon.  I have been waiting for the price of a new pair of T1s to drop but my patience is wearing thin.  So, I may just jump on the T90s instead.  

post #287 of 2173
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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

FYI for anyone who is interested, the T90s are now showing up on Amazon.  I have been waiting for the price of a new pair of T1s to drop but my patience is wearing thin.  So, I may just jump on the T90s instead.  

^same. i think i will still save up for the t1's though. i think the t1 will hit 1k flat buy the end of the year.(hopefully!) considering there still making them. hopefully they wont go the discontinued route so that can keep the price high.

post #288 of 2173
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Originally Posted by maxmays1 View Post

^same. i think i will still save up for the t1's though. i think the t1 will hit 1k flat buy the end of the year.(hopefully!) considering there still making them. hopefully they wont go the discontinued route so that can keep the price high.

 

I went ahead and jumped on it.  Worst-case, I will return them and wait for the T1s again... or buy a used pair on the FS/FT forum.

 

I will post my out of the box impressions tomorrow when they arrive.

post #289 of 2173
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Hi,

 

When I get the T90 to demo, I can demo it for 30 days and there is no fee.

 

 

The fee comes from the hifi-forum as a pre selection of the participants and has nothing to do with Beyer :)


Edited by TheDuke990 - 8/22/12 at 7:03am
post #290 of 2173

Received my T90s today.  First impressions are that I love the minimalist look to these.  The case, the foam liner and the headphones.  That's it.  No intricate plastic housing that I have to weave through to get them out.  The headphones themselves feel very sturdy.  I love to see metal on headphones, it gives me a warm feeling.  These feel like they will last forever.  The velour pads are nice and plush as well.  The headphones are very comfortable with a slight bit of clamping, but that will subside I'm sure.

 

As for the sound, I have only had them on my head for about 15 minutes but when I played the first song (Icarus - Deus Ex Soundtrack) I could immediately tell that these are very detailed, extremely detailed.  It's quite amazing really.  I have always loved my Q701s for the amount of detail they give me, but the T90s pass them easily in that area.  Also, the soundstage.  It's immediately very impressive.  It feels very deep and airy.   The imaging is also very, very good.  It's like a laser.  Sounds are very easy to pinpoint.  Separation is easily better than the Q701s, which struggled with this especially when a song became 'busy'. 

 

Vocals, while not recessed, can be a bit thin and grainy at times.  I am also occasionally hearing some sibilance in this area.  The sibilance that I do hear isn't really very piercing.  It just seems to emphasize the "sssss" sound every now and then.  

 

The bass seems to be very similar to my Q701s.  The T90s may have just a bit more sub-bass than the Q701s but the mid-bass is pretty much the same to my ears right now.  Of course I am using the ODAC as my source and it tends to reduce the bass on all of my headphones.  I would say that these are not basshead headphones for sure. 

 

All in all, the T90s seem to be a very competent, detailed-oriented pair of headphones.  I plan on doing some burn-in on these to see if it tames the vocals a bit, but so far so good.  

 

My setup is : Foobar 2000 (WASAPI) - ODAC - Matrix M-stage - T90s

post #291 of 2173

Just a little update on my T90s.  The sibilance is still there and it can be quite fatiguing at times.  My T90s only have about 8-10 hours on them, so I am still holding out hope that they will calm down a bit.  

 

Zombie_X have you received your T90s yet?  I am interested to hear more comparisons between them and the T1s.  

post #292 of 2173
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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

Just a little update on my T90s.  The sibilance is still there and it can be quite fatiguing at times.  My T90s only have about 8-10 hours on them, so I am still holding out hope that they will calm down a bit.  

 

Zombie_X have you received your T90s yet?  I am interested to hear more comparisons between them and the T1s.  

 

After 20-30 hours the sibliance didnt change any further for me. Right out of the box the treble, when a song hit that peak, would overtone the mids and bass completely. That doesnt happen so badly anymore but the peak and sibliance is still present and thins the mids somehwat when a track hits that spot. What's annoying for me personally is that the peak and thus the sibliance is not relative to the recording quality. Even if you have a perfect record and just the vocals seem to get into that range (every singer has different sibliance "problem zones") it can ruin the whole track. However i would say only 20-30% of my material triggers the peak and maybe 5% so badly that it's unlistenable. That's absolutely allright for me.

Compared to the Shure 1840 the T90 sounds a bit more closed in throughout the frequency range, the Shure has more transparency especially in the mids. Detail wise i would say they are on an even level, however the T90 makes the detail easier to hear due to the treble. The T90 sounds more natural with male vocals than female, while the Shure is fantastic with female and male vocals. The bass punch, amount and detail (texture) is higher on the T90, actually with some electronic music (deep house mostly) the bass is on the edge of being too much for me personally, i prefer the Shure 1840 in such cases.

Besides that the Shure sounds more coherent in it's frequency response and soundstage, the T90 suffers a small bit from the 3-Blob stage phenomen where the left, mid and right sound too seperated but that is only in direct comparison with the Shure, on it's own the soundstage of the T90 is great with good coherence and depth/width in good relation to each other.

post #293 of 2173
The sibilance with these really is unfortunate. I really do like their detailed sound. I am going to give them a little more time but if the harshness doesn't smooth out I don't think I will keep them.
post #294 of 2173

Hi,

 

No I have not gotten them yet. I am not sure when I will get them.

 

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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

Just a little update on my T90s.  The sibilance is still there and it can be quite fatiguing at times.  My T90s only have about 8-10 hours on them, so I am still holding out hope that they will calm down a bit.  

 

Zombie_X have you received your T90s yet?  I am interested to hear more comparisons between them and the T1s.  

post #295 of 2173
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Originally Posted by draven5494 View Post

The sibilance with these really is unfortunate. I really do like their detailed sound. I am going to give them a little more time but if the harshness doesn't smooth out I don't think I will keep them.

 

I think I am coming to the same conclusion. When sibilance is not an issue, the T90 is really quite amazing.  But I hear harshness more often than I would like. I was listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon last night and I was actually dreading the alarm clocks on the beginning of "Time".  Sure enough, it was pretty intense (not in a good way).
 
But man, these can sound so good at times.  If money was no object, I would surely be keeping them. I am just not sure if I want to spend this much on headphones that I can't enjoy with all of my music. 
 
 
post #296 of 2173
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

 

I think I am coming to the same conclusion. When sibilance is not an issue, the T90 is really quite amazing.  But I hear harshness more often than I would like. I was listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon last night and I was actually dreading the alarm clocks on the beginning of "Time".  Sure enough, it was pretty intense (not in a good way).
 
But man, these can sound so good at times.  If money was no object, I would surely be keeping them. I am just not sure if I want to spend this much on headphones that I can't enjoy with all of my music. 
 
 


How many hours you have on them?

post #297 of 2173
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

I think I am coming to the same conclusion. When sibilance is not an issue, the T90 is really quite amazing.  But I hear harshness more often than I would like. I was listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon last night and I was actually dreading the alarm clocks on the beginning of "Time".  Sure enough, it was pretty intense (not in a good way).
 
But man, these can sound so good at times.  If money was no object, I would surely be keeping them. I am just not sure if I want to spend this much on headphones that I can't enjoy with all of my music. 
 
 

But I see that you have the T1 in your inventory. What does the T90 do that the T1 cannot?
post #298 of 2173
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post

I think I am coming to the same conclusion. When sibilance is not an issue, the T90 is really quite amazing.  But I hear harshness more often than I would like. I was listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon last night and I was actually dreading the alarm clocks on the beginning of "Time".  Sure enough, it was pretty intense (not in a good way).
 
But man, these can sound so good at times.  If money was no object, I would surely be keeping them. I am just not sure if I want to spend this much on headphones that I can't enjoy with all of my music. 
 
 

But I see that you have the T1 in your inventory. What does the T90 do that the T1 cannot?
post #299 of 2173
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post


How many hours you have on them?

Not enough to be sure that it won't get better.  Only about 10-12 hours.

 

I had the DT990 previously, and sibilance did lesson somewhat over time with those (although it never disappeared).

I expect that the T90 would follow a similar path.

post #300 of 2173
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But I see that you have the T1 in your inventory. What does the T90 do that the T1 cannot?

I find the T90 to be brighter and a little more detailed. It can really make strings sound great...more air and just an overall smooth sweetness that I really like. As I mentioned though, vocals can be sibilant.

 

Now that I have spent more time with both, I don't see the T1 as just a better T90. They are different enough that I could see owning both.  However, I am not prepared to spend that much right now so I have to make a choice. For me, the T1 is the choice. I have really liked it with pretty much every type of music I have thrown at it. Unfortunately, it looks like I will be without the T1 for awhile because I am hearing some rattle/distortion in the left ear. frown.gif

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