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post #2761 of 2774

Whoa, really? To me the UE900s are pretty dull sounding, while the T90 is pretty bright.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post


I have the T90 and for me the closest is the UE900s. If you need a cheaper option OSTRY KC06 and if you like to have a bit more bass the KC06A .

Cheers,
K
post #2762 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post
 

 

Well, it's hard to find anything with the treble detail of the T90. I think from a general sound signature the UE900s comes closest from the IEMs I have heard. The RE-400 could also be pretty close if I think of it, but again, not the treble detail and the bass of the T90 only with a boost.

 

It's challenging to find a IEM-T90....

 

Cheers,

K

post #2763 of 2774

hahah thanks guys for all the recommendation ,
im planning to give my T90 a trade with the westone w40 ,
and i am hoping i will make the right decision .

I have not trade though . 

I once thought about having customs ,
until i came to realise that i am not going to know how the CIEMs are going to sound until they have been formed and shipped to my doorstep :(

I am still searching , still searching. 
Overall the westone w40 and w60 in my opinion are just as about T90-ish .
i'll be missing the wide open soundstage of the T90s :(

post #2764 of 2774

I went back to listen to my T90 , and decided i should just keep it.
It's really too beautifully sounding to be traded T.T

i am running this T90 on the iFi iDSD nano and iFi iCAN nano.
Anyone has any tube amp pairings to go with the T90 ? 
Other than the Bottlehead Crack . 
The T90 needs a tube to unleash it's full potential

post #2765 of 2774

Have you heard many other multi-armature IEMs other than the UE900? Something as affordable as the Brainwavz B2 or any other Knowles TWFK-based earphone has substantially better treble detail, to say nothing of greater treble presence (a hallmark of the T90) when compared to the UE900. They definitely can't match it's bass, which is some of the best in its price range - great control and near perfect quantity to my ears - but I think treble is one area where the UE900 comes up a little bit short compared to other multi-armatures. It probably sounds the most like a DD of all the BA-based earphones I've heard at or below it's price range, which is pretty impressive.

 

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Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post
 

 

Well, it's hard to find anything with the treble detail of the T90. I think from a general sound signature the UE900s comes closest from the IEMs I have heard. The RE-400 could also be pretty close if I think of it, but again, not the treble detail and the bass of the T90 only with a boost.

 

It's challenging to find a IEM-T90....

 

Cheers,

Kto


Edited by Gilly87 - 1/28/15 at 7:15am
post #2766 of 2774

:) It really is a great can.

 

Unfortunately I have very little experience with tube amps :( I try to keep my setup transportable, and tubes are just too fragile...who knows, though, maybe one day Schiit will put a tube in a portable DAC/AMP combo - wouldn't put it past them! ^_^

 

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Originally Posted by potatoe94 View Post
 

I went back to listen to my T90 , and decided i should just keep it.
It's really too beautifully sounding to be traded T.T

i am running this T90 on the iFi iDSD nano and iFi iCAN nano.
Anyone has any tube amp pairings to go with the T90 ? 
Other than the Bottlehead Crack . 
The T90 needs a tube to unleash it's full potential

post #2767 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post
Have you heard many other multi-armature IEMs other than the UE900? Something as affordable as the Brainwavz B2 or any other Knowles TWFK-based earphone has substantially better treble detail, to say nothing of greater treble presence (a hallmark of the T90) when compared to the UE900. They definitely can't match it's bass, which is some of the best in its price range - great control and near perfect quantity to my ears - but I think treble is one area where the UE900 comes up a little bit short compared to other multi-armatures. It probably sounds the most like a DD of all the BA-based earphones I've heard at or below it's price range, which is pretty impressive.

 

I have heard SE846 and I have a few other IEMs but since I can only talk about what I own or have heard extensively. I have AX-35, KC06 and KC06A, NVX-EX10S, RHA350, Sennheiser CX880, CX400II, Logitech UE500, Hifiman RE-400, Xiaomi Piston 2.1, JVC HA-FX850,
Fidue A71 and Beyerdynamic DTX102ie. And a few others that I sold.

 

So, I guess you have probably more exposure and experience with multi BA IEMs as mine is very limited. But from the above list, none mirrors the T90 - so the closest that I have heard I think (without switching back and forth) was the UE900s and RE-400 to the T90. But far from the same sound indeed.

 

Cheers,

K

post #2768 of 2774

Interesting. You have a lot of experience with dynamics! RE400 is a great IEM, but a bit on the smooth side, like the UE900; both are very technically capable, but tend to err on the side of being smooth rather than emphasizing treble. It makes sense for the price range; it's VERY hard to make an affordable IEM that has good treble, and most IEMs under $400 that have really nice treble, like the B2, VC1000 or DBA2, tend to emphasize it over the rest of the spectrum.

 

The SE846 is a BEAST of an IEM, but like the UE900, it's more on the bass-oriented/smooth side of things for a BA.

 

If you want to make a fun purchase as an experiment, try the Fischer Audio DBA-02 (preferably MkII, supposedly it's more durable) out. It, or really any TWFK-based IEM, will give you a good sense for the other side of the spectrum; most of the IEMs you've tried are either bassy or balanced-smooth in terms of signature. Trying something "bright and tight," as I call it; they won't sound as "realistic" at first, but I think if you give them a fair shot, you'll see that this signature is much closer to the sound of the T90.

 

TWFK IEMs that I know of:

 

Fischer Audio DBA 02

VSonic GR01

Vsonic VC1000

Ultimate Ears UE700

Rock-It Sounds R50

Brainwavz B2

 

I'm sure there are others, but yeah, these earphones all use the same drivers; the tuning is a little different for each, but the overall sound signature is the "bright and tight" style - a bit of extra emphasis on treble, with very tight, punchy bass.

 

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Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post
 

 

I have heard SE846 and I have a few other IEMs but since I can only talk about what I own or have heard extensively. I have AX-35, KC06 and KC06A, NVX-EX10S, RHA350, Sennheiser CX880, CX400II, Logitech UE500, Hifiman RE-400, Xiaomi Piston 2.1, JVC HA-FX850,
Fidue A71 and Beyerdynamic DTX102ie. And a few others that I sold.

 

So, I guess you have probably more exposure and experience with multi BA IEMs as mine is very limited. But from the above list, none mirrors the T90 - so the closest that I have heard I think (without switching back and forth) was the UE900s and RE-400 to the T90. But far from the same sound indeed.

 

Cheers,

K


Edited by Gilly87 - 1/28/15 at 7:51am
post #2769 of 2774
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Originally Posted by potatoe94 View Post
 

I went back to listen to my T90 , and decided i should just keep it.
It's really too beautifully sounding to be traded T.T

i am running this T90 on the iFi iDSD nano and iFi iCAN nano.
Anyone has any tube amp pairings to go with the T90 ? 
Other than the Bottlehead Crack . 
The T90 needs a tube to unleash it's full potential

Having tried the T90 with many amps, the following tube amps are now in my collection for use with the headphone library:

1. ZanaDeux SE - T90 absolutely sings on this with a Mullard ecc35 drive tube - drives everything in my collection

2. Crack - TungSol 6as7g and Tungsram e80cc play nicely with the T90 - this amp is best for high impedance headphones only

3. Project Sunrise - hybrid 12au7 drive and mosfet class A SET output with output impedance selection - T90 sounds great on high setting - will drive any headphone in my collection

4. Woo WA7 - transformer output - T90 sounds good on this but better on the above amps - will drive any headphone in the collection 

post #2770 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post


Man,many thanks for your post.. Very insightful. I shall try one of these next to experiment.

Cheers,
K
post #2771 of 2774
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post
 


Oh, listen to the T90 on a BH Crack with Speedball a Mullard and Tungsol tube - such a sweet sound....

post #2772 of 2774

Np dude :)  Enjoy the"bright and tight" stuff; I think you will find something you like in them if you're into the T90. Not as much bass, but it's a very interesting take on in-ear sound. When you start getting into upper-tier universals ($200+), you start getting the best of both worlds.

 

I've heard HD650 on Crack, it was amazing. I may have to get a real home rig some day...I'm just so keen on trans/portable audio, and use it so much more, that I always want the same sound on the go and at home. Also it might be a waste for me, I spend so little time at home...but who knows, maybe some day I'll have gobs of money and it won't matter ^_^.

 

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Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post


Man,many thanks for your post.. Very insightful. I shall try one of these next to experiment.

Cheers,
K

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post
 


Oh, listen to the T90 on a BH Crack with Speedball a Mullard and Tungsol tube - such a sweet sound....

post #2773 of 2774

what's a speedball in the Bottlehead crack ? issit an add on ? what does it do ? i dont know how much i am looking at with a completed bottleheadcrack

post #2774 of 2774
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Originally Posted by potatoe94 View Post

what's a speedball in the Bottlehead crack ? issit an add on ? what does it do ? i dont know how much i am looking at with a completed bottleheadcrack

You saw Spinal Tap?

Bottlehead Crack=10
Bottlehead Crack + Speedball=goes to 11

It's an update to some parts of the crack - improves it quite a bit. It's good without and great with it.

The Bottlehead website will tell you what it is technically. The upgrade can be done later. I bought my crack from a fellow headfier and it was already fully assembled.

Cheers,
K
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