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post #1216 of 2263
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

Didn't you also recable them as well? That would've void them already.

 

How would that void a blown driver?  Places like Moon-Audio do recables like every day!

post #1217 of 2263

Only way around it would be to send it back to original owner, have them send it in for warranty work!

post #1218 of 2263
Might've worked if you didn't modified it. quick google yields this: Defects in the product resulting from or in connection with modifications made to the product to the extent that regarding the nature and extent of the modification no prior written consent on the part of beyerdynamic exists.

just cause someone offers a service didn't mean the service didn't void warranties.
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Edited by cute - 11/21/13 at 1:18am
post #1220 of 2263
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Originally Posted by fiascogarcia View Post
 

That's the same policy that Westone has. I've always assumed that's standard policy.  In fact, what companies do have transferable warranties?

OH YEA Hifiman does, as does Audio Technica... the other side of the world seems to be less fickle with extended warrenty!   In fact my Hm 801 had it's USB crap out... for $100 I can buy an extended warrenty and get a replacment! Thank you Hifiman for your EXCELLENT customer service. That said, I'm hoping I don't end up with a DUD pair >.> I've gotten all good Beyers So far... let's just hope.

 

Still this is not really awesome to hear... although the even bigger disappointment is I got to try an Audio Technica AD 2000x [Still technically reviewing it] but vs my balanced dt 880... I was NOT impressed... at all... so the T90 is looking betta and betta each day! [Unless I can snag a HE 4 in the near future or maybe a HE 5LE] 

post #1221 of 2263
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

OH YEA Hifiman does, as does Audio Technica... the other side of the world seems to be less fickle with extended warrenty!   In fact my Hm 801 had it's USB crap out... for $100 I can buy an extended warrenty and get a replacment! Thank you Hifiman for your EXCELLENT customer service. That said, I'm hoping I don't end up with a DUD pair >.> I've gotten all good Beyers So far... let's just hope.

Still this is not really awesome to hear... although the even bigger disappointment is I got to try an Audio Technica AD 2000x [Still technically reviewing it] but vs my balanced dt 880... I was NOT impressed... at all... so the T90 is looking betta and betta each day! [Unless I can snag a HE 4 in the near future or maybe a HE 5LE] 
Beyerdynamic is a German company. wink.gif

I think Beyer and Senn have non-transferring warranties because their products are price controlled. They don't want you buying second hand from a non-authorized dealer and still get serviced, basically using repairs as a way to get ppl to buy at the price they want them set at. Heck, they won't even warranty the refurbs that they sell themselves on eBay. But hey, should've done your hw/research before you buy. rolleyes.gif

I find that a lot of smaller companies will "allow" by not restricting purchases to orignal owner. But they don't come out and say they will allow for transfers so they can deny if they think someone is abusing it. Others will go out of their way to repair and fix because they want to gain traction in the business. HiFi-man is still a new company so any positive PR goes a long way for them.
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


Beyerdynamic is a German company. wink.gif

I think Beyer and Senn have non-transferring warranties because their products are price controlled. They don't want you buying second hand from a non-authorized dealer and still get serviced, basically using repairs as a way to get ppl to buy at the price they want them set at. Heck, they won't even warranty the refurbs that they sell themselves on eBay. But hey, should've done your hw/research before you buy. rolleyes.gif

I find that a lot of smaller companies will "allow" by not restricting purchases to orignal owner. But they don't come out and say they will allow for transfers so they can deny if they think someone is abusing it. Others will go out of their way to repair and fix because they want to gain traction in the business. HiFi-man is still a new company so any positive PR goes a long way for them.

Positive PR goes a long way for any company! And yes It's always nice to have a option to deny the liars! 

 

That said, I've not had a beyer break on me I hope I NEVER do q.q

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I recently purchased a pair of DT990 600 ohm from another headfier.  I intended to do a rewire, they had drivers replaced by Sound Surgeon about a year ago.  Headfier stated they were two years old, and only had a month left on the original warranty.  When I took the pads off, picture below is what was revealed.  Evidently Sound Surgeon installed one DT880 driver and one DT990 driver, how can that happen?  I called Beyer USA and talked directly to Pete Carini and ordered two matching DT990 drivers.  I explained the situation, and he offered to refund the charge for the two drivers if I returned the two drivers that Sound Surgeon had installed.  As a second owner, I got very lucky this time!

 

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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

I recently purchased a pair of DT990 600 ohm from another headfier.  I intended to do a rewire, they had drivers replaced by Sound Surgeon about a year ago.  Headfier stated they were two years old, and only had a month left on the original warranty.  When I took the pads off, picture below is what was revealed.  Evidently Sound Surgeon installed one DT880 driver and one DT990 driver, how can that happen?  I called Beyer USA and talked directly to Pete Carini and ordered two matching DT990 drivers.  I explained the situation, and he offered to refund the charge for the two drivers if I returned the two drivers that Sound Surgeon had installed.  As a second owner, I got very lucky this time!

 

Indeed! 

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I bought the  T90's few weeks back. I am using them with WA6 (with Sophia tube). I tried it with Schiit Lyr too but didn't sound as great as with the Woo, too sibilant.

 

I went to the Beyer dealer to buy the DT990 Pro's , did a demo, liked them & was walking to the counter to pay the bill when I saw the T90's. Out of curiosity asked how much they cost & then decided to demo them just for kicks, as no way I was gonna spend so much on a HP. Rest is history....:dt880smile:

 

 


Edited by punit - 11/24/13 at 10:25am
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I'm looking forward to buying a Vali to try these with. Beyond that - WA3/6 is next on my list.

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Wow, wow, wow..........I have just been doing some cable swapping with my T90's, to try and find the best combination of wire versus sound!  I really hit on something here.  Over the past few weeks I have been building quality 8 wire cables.  I have 4 cables that I can switch between 4 headphones, and will make my other headphones modular as well by using a detachable connector that accepts the male connector on Sennheiser HD650 plugs.  The cable I am testing now improves on soundstage, bass, and treble.  The soundstage now is at least as big as my DT990, on my T90, but I have yet to make the DT990 modular, just an 8 wire copper litz cable on that for now, but eventually will have the DT990 and the DT880 modular as well.  Spectacular find, and yes, cables really make a difference, IMO....wish everyone could have a chance to demo them.  So far, my T90, HD580 and a couple of headphones priced <$50. are vastly outperforming their stock cable offerings....and that is an understatement..  It is like have 4 headphones in one with the cable changes!

 

I had the T90's on the for sale forum with a fantastic Double Helix Cables Peptide 8 wire cable, glad they didn't sell.....won't be selling them now.....with my new modular cables, it is like owning four T90's, only much better than stock for sure!


Edited by cute - 11/24/13 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

Wow, wow, wow..........I have just been doing some cable swapping with my T90's, to try and find the best combination of wire versus sound!  I really hit on something here.  Over the past few weeks I have been building quality 8 wire cables.  I have 4 cables that I can switch between 4 headphones, and will make my other headphones modular as well by using a detachable connector that accepts the male connector on Sennheiser HD650 plugs.  The cable I am testing now improves on soundstage, bass, and treble.  The soundstage now is at least as big as my DT990, on my T90, but I have yet to make the DT990 modular, just an 8 wire copper litz cable on that for now, but eventually will have the DT990 and the DT880 modular as well.  Spectacular find, and yes, cables really make a difference, IMO....wish everyone could have a chance to demo them.  So far, my T90, HD580 and a couple of headphones priced <$50. are vastly outperforming their stock cable offerings....and that is an understatement..  It is like have 4 headphones in one with the cable changes!

 

I had the T90's on the for sale forum with a fantastic Double Helix Cables Peptide 8 wire cable, glad they didn't sell.....won't be selling them now.....with my new modular cables, it is like owning four T90's, only much better than stock for sure!

Me gusta. I want to get all my headphones built for Modular mini XLR cables my self 

post #1229 of 2263
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

Wow, wow, wow..........I have just been doing some cable swapping with my T90's, to try and find the best combination of wire versus sound!  I really hit on something here.  Over the past few weeks I have been building quality 8 wire cables.  I have 4 cables that I can switch between 4 headphones, and will make my other headphones modular as well by using a detachable connector that accepts the male connector on Sennheiser HD650 plugs.  The cable I am testing now improves on soundstage, bass, and treble.  The soundstage now is at least as big as my DT990, on my T90, but I have yet to make the DT990 modular, just an 8 wire copper litz cable on that for now, but eventually will have the DT990 and the DT880 modular as well.  Spectacular find, and yes, cables really make a difference, IMO....wish everyone could have a chance to demo them.  So far, my T90, HD580 and a couple of headphones priced <$50. are vastly outperforming their stock cable offerings....and that is an understatement..  It is like have 4 headphones in one with the cable changes!

 

I had the T90's on the for sale forum with a fantastic Double Helix Cables Peptide 8 wire cable, glad they didn't sell.....won't be selling them now.....with my new modular cables, it is like owning four T90's, only much better than stock for sure!

Me gusta. I want to get all my headphones built for Modular mini XLR cables my self 

 

My self did.............the way to go, will tell you if cables make a difference for sure.....more than one cable for each headphone.  I took 8 cables apart, combined two of them and rebraided and terminated to 8 wire....a lot of self satisfaction here!  I got the idea from Peter Bradstock, Double Helix Cables.  I used Sennheiser plugs, reused some, there is a shortage of Amphenol Female Mini XLR's right now.  I have enough of them in male for five cables eventually!

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This cable that I am using right now, really bring the T90 to sound like a real DT880 upgrade, but much bigger soundstage, like the DT990, and treble closer to the DT990, but more smooth.  Deeper, tighter bass with more texture, mids sound like the singers voice is floating on clouds, fine, detailed, natural, like they should be.......treble is full of micro details with absolutely no harshness at all (confirmed by some Sarah Brightman test tracks).  Gosh, the soundstage is wide, tall, fairly deep, with very good separation!


Edited by cute - 11/24/13 at 2:39pm
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