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post #661 of 1907

More listening time = these have got to be the best sounding IEMs for under $100 that I've heard...by far!!

 

 

My friend in the next cubicle has the TF10...the CKM500 can't quite compete with the UEs.   The CKM500 is way more comfortable though.   Also, the CKM500 is less than half the price, yet you don’t get half the sound quality of the TF10.

post #662 of 1907
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Oh I don't know about the CKM500 not holding their own against the TF10. I own the TF10s. Just my opinion but I think they are way over rated. If you listen to forward vocal tracks on the TF10 they start to muffle the vocals in the mids. The old design is showing its age on the TF10s. I prefer the highs and mids on the CKM500 way more than the TF10. In the bass department guess which one wins out.

 

The CKM500 has the better SQ to be honest. Again I own the TF10s. I have no idea why people like them so much..Throw on some Diana Krall and listen to her on the CKM500s. Ask your buddy if you can hear his TF10s. Listen to the same track on his TF10. I am willing to bet you will hear which one will have the better sound. In fact. You should borrow his TF10 and get familiar with your CKM500.

 

Listen to how the sound is portrayed on the TF10. There is something off in the sounds. The mids for me I know poeple say V shape but to my ears they are overly forward which muffles vocals..I have a perfectly working pair and that is how I hear them. I can clearly understand why people reshell them.

 

This may sound whack but I actually prefer my $21 JVC FX40 over the TF10s. Again this is all just my opinion. I do know people have completely different taste than I do so I can respect folks for loving their  TF10s.


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/6/12 at 11:39am
post #663 of 1907

After using the Sony hybrid clones, I can say they definitely improve things along the lines of where I want bass to be. They allow the sub-bass to be more audible and tame the bass boost. Sony hybrids seem to have the effect of creating a softer bass sound and notes dig deeper


Edited by jarrett - 6/6/12 at 12:14pm
post #664 of 1907

how is isolation compared to the ckm99 or 77??

post #665 of 1907

has anybody else tried the Sony hybrid tips? or the sony hybrid copies from ebay? can anybody else compare the sound between the stock tips and the hybrids?

post #666 of 1907
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Oh I don't know about the CKM500 not holding their own against the TF10. I own the TF10s. Just my opinion but I think they are way over rated. If you listen to forward vocal tracks on the TF10 they start to muffle the vocals in the mids. The old design is showing its age on the TF10s. I prefer the highs and mids on the CKM500 way more than the TF10. In the bass department guess which one wins out.

 

The CKM500 has the better SQ to be honest. Again I own the TF10s. I have no idea why people like them so much..Throw on some Diana Krall and listen to her on the CKM500s. Ask your buddy if you can hear his TF10s. Listen to the same track on his TF10. I am willing to bet you will hear which one will have the better sound. In fact. You should borrow his TF10 and get familiar with your CKM500.

 

Listen to how the sound is portrayed on the TF10. There is something off in the sounds. The mids for me I know poeple say V shape but to my ears they are overly forward which muffles vocals..I have a perfectly working pair and that is how I hear them. I can clearly understand why people reshell them.

 

This may sound whack but I actually prefer my $21 JVC FX40 over the TF10s. Again this is all just my opinion. I do know people have completely different taste than I do so I can respect folks for loving their  TF10s.

 



I can understand how you feel about the TF10. 

 

I feel the same way about the ATH-M50.  It is a highly regarded headphone, but I just never warmed up to it.  I actually prefer my PX100 over the M50. tongue.gif

 

The TF10 is simply the best sounding IEM I have tried - the clarity is outstanding.  I want to hear the x10, RE262, and the GR07 just to see how the TF10 stacks up against them.

post #667 of 1907
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how is isolation compared to the ckm99 or 77??

Isolation is about the same actually on all 3. Which is about average for vented designs. They do pretty good when playing music at medium levels. Lower volumes you will be able to hear around you.

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has anybody else tried the Sony hybrid tips? or the sony hybrid copies from ebay? can anybody else compare the sound between the stock tips and the hybrids?

Ya Jarrett is right. The hybrids do soften the bass end a bit.

post #668 of 1907
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Ya Jarrett is right. The hybrids do soften the bass end a bit.

 

in a good way or a bad way? does it affect the mids or highs?

 

i have no problem with the stock tips... but i'd imagine eventually they will wear out and need to be replaced with something. not sure where to get the original AT replacements from.


Edited by jasonb - 6/6/12 at 4:58pm
post #669 of 1907
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Not really the highs and mids that I can tell, but tames down the bass a little. If anything the mids seem to just a tid bit clearer. I put back the stock tips as it wasn't a huge change. Very marginal at best but i am detecting the shorter nozzle tubing on the hybrids might have to do with the slight change in sound. I can grow to get used to that sound but it didn't make enough of a change in sound to have me want to start using the hybrids on them. I like the stock sound just the way they are so no need to mess with other tips for me but that is one area that this thread has not explored.


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/6/12 at 5:06pm
post #670 of 1907

I find the hybrids more comfortable.  Not sure if I can tell a huge difference in sound between the two.  The bass does seem softer or smaller.  I prefer the bigger bass with the AT tips.  I think the soundstage is decreased with the hybrids.  Overall, the wider nozzle of the AT tips win for sound, but comfort goes to the hybrids. 

post #671 of 1907

I can't believe how the CKM500 sounds against my ATH-ESW9's with upgraded cables.  I have two pair of ESW9's, one with DHC Symbiote cable upgrade, and the other with Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable.  After burn in of 100 hrs, the CKM500 sounds more full that either of the ESW9's, and very much the Audio Technica sound signature.  I actually think vocals are better than with the ESW9's, ie, Diana Krall, Loreena McKinnet, Holly Cole, Raul Malo just to name a few.  I am using jRiver Media Center 16, and wav files, see my sig for details on my home gears.  I use the crossfeed standard from jRiver MC, and I am using my custom silicone tips from Aurisonics (these work great on the CKM500's)!  The CKM500's are getting a lot of playing time in these ears!


Edited by cute - 6/6/12 at 5:23pm
post #672 of 1907
These are the only ear phones i have been listening to for the past 2 and a half weeks. I put the now sold SA6's in just to compare the two, but thats it. I like these a lot.
post #673 of 1907

The vocals/mids sound fantastic, love the sparkle/detail in the highs, may be the best I have heard, full size headphones or IEM's!

post #674 of 1907
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Sounds like these have gown to your liking there Cute.. These are what the Ckm99 should have been.. It seems AT has addressed just about every issue with their previous top CKM models with these CKM500. The CKM700s can't come out soon enough. Can't wait to try those out.

post #675 of 1907

Just laid some bones down on RE-262. Can't believe that I will be comparing them to the ATH-CKM500 when the 262 are in and sufficiently burned. Today, my Arrow arrived and I played the CKM500's on it. Schwiiinnng! o2smile.gif

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