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post #3676 of 3690

I was an early Aurisonics adopter with the original ASG-1.  Unfortunately they were a huge disappointment for me and we just not the sound I was hoping for.  I realize I was not their intended audience for the voicing of the ASG-1.

 

So am I crazy for considering the ASG-2.5?  I recently tried the Westone W40 and UE900 and we not really impressed with either compared to my trusty ol' TF10. 

 

I really like the custom styled universal design and miss having dynamic drivers (Used the IE8 for two years).

 

I need a nudge in the right direction.  Thx!

post #3677 of 3690
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Originally Posted by dosley01 View Post

I was an early Aurisonics adopter with the original ASG-1.  Unfortunately they were a huge disappointment for me and we just not the sound I was hoping for.  I realize I was not their intended audience for the voicing of the ASG-1.

So am I crazy for considering the ASG-2.5?  I recently tried the Westone W40 and UE900 and we not really impressed with either compared to my trusty ol' TF10. 

I really like the custom styled universal design and miss having dynamic drivers (Used the IE8 for two years).

I need a nudge in the right direction.  Thx!

I wouldn't be overly concerned or taking a solid stance on Aurisonics because of ASG-1. I didnt find it my cup of tea. The ASG-2 at least is a monster hybrid, nothing like ASG-1. As for the 2.5, Uncle H20 might just have one coming his way soon. wink.gif
post #3678 of 3690
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Originally Posted by dosley01 View Post

I was an early Aurisonics adopter with the original ASG-1.  Unfortunately they were a huge disappointment for me and we just not the sound I was hoping for.  I realize I was not their intended audience for the voicing of the ASG-1.

So am I crazy for considering the ASG-2.5?  I recently tried the Westone W40 and UE900 and we not really impressed with either compared to my trusty ol' TF10. 

I really like the custom styled universal design and miss having dynamic drivers (Used the IE8 for two years).

I need a nudge in the right direction.  Thx!
Actually all the IEMs you've listed ranging from W40, UE900, TF10 have quite different sound signatures. W40 and UE900 shares a closer signature which is more balanced and flat. TF10 is more V shape emphasising on both ends. Bass on TF10 is more apparent than W40 and UE900. But with proper source, W40 and UE900 have got better sub bass extension. For the ASG2/2.5, it's another signature altogether. So no guarantees that you'll love them. The focus will be more on lows and mids with very great vocals. This can also bring about forward mids which can may not be to everybody's tastes. Mids and vocals are more apparent compared to TF10. It does not carry the treble energy found on the TF10.
post #3679 of 3690

This would have to be one of my favourite rigs right now.

 

I've gone through several sources, DX50, DX90, S:Flo2, Cowon J3 (plus others) whilst some do other things better, since using the silver cable with ASG-2 - C3 meets the best performance ratio for me. Only thing is, the bass is a little loose, and there's a slight roll-off which is good in some ways but not so good when you want that extra thump ASG-2's well known for.

 

 

I may as well take this combo above, Fidue A83 with either DX90 or Shozy Alien and just leave Head-fi. :o 

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Edited by H20Fidelity - 3/9/15 at 9:40pm
post #3680 of 3690
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post
 

This would have to be one of my favourite rigs right now.

 

I've gone through several sources, DX50, DX90, S:Flo2, Cowon J3 (plus others) whilst some do other things better, since using the silver cable with ASG-2 - C3 meets the best performance ratio for me. Only thing is, the bass is a little loose, and there's a slight roll-off which is good in some ways but not so good when you want that extra thump ASG-2's well known for.

 

 

I may as well take this combo above, Fidue A83 with either DX90 or Shozy Alien and just leave Head-fi. :o 

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Is that a Tralucent Silver/Gold cable? - How does it work with your ASG-2? I haven't tried mine yet.....

post #3681 of 3690
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Is that a Tralucent Silver/Gold cable? - How does it work with your ASG-2? I haven't tried mine yet.....

 

Yes, Tralucent, just silver for this one.

 

It works very well, cleans up the presentation, creates more air, soundstage, pushes out more detail, gives the presentation a specific tone and timbre, maybe needing to keep a little eye on the treble with some poorly mastered tracks and it sounded a little off with the older S:Flo2, almost a little tinny or metallic. I didn't like that at all so started source shuffling, probably great to most but I could hear something off. I've lightly glued the sockets on to be safe and I really like the black on black look. Personally, I would prefer a straight jack but hey.....getting fussy there. You should give it a try, I remember using Tralucent silver/gold on the demo unit a year or two back (it was good)

post #3682 of 3690
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

This would have to be one of my favourite rigs right now.

I've gone through several sources, DX50, DX90, S:Flo2, Cowon J3 (plus others) whilst some do other things better, since using the silver cable with ASG-2 - C3 meets the best performance ratio for me. Only thing is, the bass is a little loose, and there's a slight roll-off which is good in some ways but not so good when you want that extra thump ASG-2's well known for.




I may as well take this combo above, Fidue A83 with either DX90 or Shozy Alien and just leave Head-fi. redface.gif  
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Once you're in, there's no way out. 😈
post #3683 of 3690
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Once you're in, there's no way out. 😈

 

Like joining a wild bikie gang, without the motorbikes. Physically branded to bond with portable audio till death do us part.

post #3684 of 3690
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Originally Posted by ANDEROAN View Post
 

the 2.5's are an improvement in some areas over the 2's, but the 2.5's still have nothing over the 2's when it comes to those warm and enveloping mids! I am more of a fan of the 2's midbass, then with the the subbass on the 2.5's

 

the subbass on the 2.5's has less of a presance in the music then the midbass on the 2's do, I seem to just hear it more, the midbass on the 2's blends/adds/connects to the mids more, which adds to the rich and lusciousness that I absolutely love, but seems to be more thinned out/seperated from the mids with the subbass oriented 2.5's, so to me the music winds up being less engaging for them, fatiguing in a small way, seperated from the mids more without the midbass oriented presance

 

anyways here's my small take on the two, sorry if I'm repeating myself,
 
I recently tried the 2.5's, ?, meh, different, but to me they don't hold a candle to the 2's I have! I listen with the bass ports all the way open,
 
the 2.5's are a great sounding iem, with slighlty more detail and seperation, but is lacking something that the 2's have?
 
the 2.5's have a slightly bigger soundstage, but it seems as if they don't fill it up like the 2's can from end to end,
 
the 2's midbass seems to blend, lend, and connect the music more to mids, giving it more body, then the subbass does on the 2.5's, the mids on the 2's strech out to the treble, tieing the music all together more, while still having great seperation and placement,
 
the 2.5's have tighter bass, but with being more subbass oriented, more seperated from the mids? I'm not hearing from it as much as I do with the 2's midbass always there blending with the music more, which I was missing while listening to the 2.5's, less body? but when I did hear the sub bass in one song, it blew my freaking mind! but only that one time? I am sure the bass is still present? not as much as the 2's though, but anyways without the midbass that the 2's shovel out in droves, the bass on the 2.5's seemed to be out there on its own more, less connected to the music, not like with the midbass from the 2's seems to be for me?
 
the mids with the 2.5's although nice, seemed dry to me? lees rich and luscious, compared to the 2's, and again not as connected to the music like the 2's are, and not as thick and meaty like the 2's, that was really hard to get used to, I think the midbass oriented 2's is where the mids really get there luscious thick and meatines sound from,
 
the treble on the 2.5's although nice, seemd too bright and slighly sibilant for my tastes, which is funny because I really didn't expect that, I read that the 2.5's where supposed to address a treble spike that the 2's are supposed to have? which I seem to never really hear? the 2's treble is slightly warmer to my ears, and that is the sound that I like the most, soft warm and encompassing! a great little friend wherever I am
 
I got used to the 2's more after my brain burn in? but I always seemed to be missing something? which I think is that magical midbass, which gives the music a little more unity then the 2.5's can, I guess it's a trade off, in the end I think I will be keeping both of them, because they both offer me great music therapy!

 

Spending this evening juggling between ASG-2 and ASG-2.5. I can definitely see where you're coming from about the bass sounding a little faint from the presentation with 2.5 compared, I will play further with the bass ports. I think more so the mid-bass of ASG-2 actually works in its favour, it forms a bond with the mid-range, its simply apart of what ASG-2 is and you'll either love it or hate it, the bass is what causes the heft, thickness, almost smokey atmosphere. 

 

There's no denying both are really great hybrids though, I really enjoy both.

post #3685 of 3690

Its been about 7 days now I've been juggling between ASG-2.5 and ASG-2.

 

Cut a long story short, I was able to choose between these 2 hybrids and pick one for keeps.

 

After much going back and forth I have to say I prefer the orginal ASG-2 over 2.5. I think it should also be known my ASG-2 have slightly less acoustic filter behind the nozzle from stock ASG-2, this may have affected the outcome. Seems to lift the tonality a fraction (brighter) and give the treble a slight tilt.

 

Whether it be this reason, I simply prefer the bass impact from ASG-2, the atmosphere, I prefer the extra clarity I'm finding in its mid-range, when a song gets moving I really feel like I'm hearing the presentation live, it sounds amazing, really. But a downside is ASG-2 can show a little more vocal sibilance, (the 2.5 is better controlled or toned down enough to hide it)

 

By no means is ASG-2.5 a bad hybrid, it's actually excellent though when I have them side by side its obvious to me which one fits my preferences more. In a nut-shell the 2.5 can sound a touch veiled or subdued, detail is definitely there in bucket loads but it doesn't push out as much clarity to me, I'm finding higher volumes are required but not quite reaching levels I'm content with. This is probably helpful for lessening fatigue, though end of the day I'm all about the most clarity from the presentation, I'm about the IEM that connects me closer to the music.

 

I've also noted the 2.5 is quite a bit harder to drive than the earlier model.. Using DX50 headphone out I'm reaching all the way up to 240/255 to try and extract that clarity I'm talking about with the 2.5. meanwhile, the 2.0 can sit comfortably at 225-230 and produce a more lively experience.

 

End of the day this 2.5 is going back to its owner, I'll keep the 2.0.

 

 

 

(For those wondering, yes, I tried the Tralucent pure silver cable on the 2.5, it didn't take them to the level I needed)

 

 

 

 

I will say its been really enjoyable doing this and I've gained a lot of experience. I'll leave you with the track that sealed that final nail in the coffin this afternoon.

 

 

 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 3/16/15 at 10:13pm
post #3686 of 3690
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post
 

Its been about 7 days now I've been juggling between ASG-2.5 and ASG-2.

 

Cut a long story short, I was able to choose between these 2 hybrids and pick one for keeps.

 

After much going back and forth I have to say I prefer the orginal ASG-2 over 2.5. I think it should also be known my ASG-2 have slightly less acoustic filter behind the nozzle from stock ASG-2, this may have affected the outcome. Seems to lift the tonality a fraction (brighter) and give the treble a slight tilt.

 

Whether it be this reason, I simply prefer the bass impact from ASG-2, the atmosphere, I prefer the extra clarity I'm finding in its mid-range, when a song gets moving I really feel like I'm hearing the presentation live, it sounds amazing, really. But a downside is ASG-2 can show a little more vocal sibilance, (the 2.5 is better controlled or toned down enough to hide it)

 

By no means is ASG-2.5 a bad hybrid, it's actually excellent though when I have them side by side its obvious to me which one fits my preferences more. In a nut-shell the 2.5 can sound a touch veiled or subdued, detail is definitely there in bucket loads but it doesn't push out as much clarity to me, I'm finding higher volumes are required but not quite reaching levels I'm content with. This is probably helpful for lessening fatigue, though end of the day I'm all about the most clarity from the presentation, I'm about the IEM that connects me closer to the music.

I completely agree with this, I miss my (stolen) ASG-2 very much because they were so lively, in the HA-FX850 style.

ASG-2.5 are more tame in the mids, which was a disappoinment, coming from ASG2 and ASG1.

 

The goodside of the ASG2.5 is their very good passive noise reduction, it's a real bliss in a plane.

Can't say the same for HA-FX850. ^^

post #3687 of 3690
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Originally Posted by tienbasse View Post

I completely agree with this, I miss my (stolen) ASG-2 very much because they were so lively, in the HA-FX850 style.
ASG-2.5 are more tame in the mids, which was a disappoinment, coming from ASG2 and ASG1.

The goodside of the ASG2.5 is their very good passive noise reduction, it's a real bliss in a plane.
Can't say the same for HA-FX850. ^^

It's quite amazing actually.

Ever since I changed to Tralucent silver cable I had lots of problems fitting the right earpiece of my ASG-2, none stop tip rolling trying to stop the right side sliding out. Not only this, while the cable looks wonderful it was making the mid-range far too thin, almost like the earpieces were labouring to reveal detail.

Tonight I switched back to this ugly poo blue Rhapsodio cable which is meant to be mono crystal copper (it does sound very good though) . Straight away the detail and thickness returned like when my units first arrived. Plus, the right earpiece stays in perfectly.

As a side note, I don't think the Tralucent cable is bad as I've heard it on other IEM perform well, just a mismatch with my ASG-2. Oh well, I wasn't a fan of the right angle jack anyway.
post #3688 of 3690
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

It's quite amazing actually.

Ever since I changed to Tralucent silver cable I had lots of problems fitting the right earpiece of my ASG-2, none stop tip rolling trying to stop the right side sliding out. Not only this, while the cable looks wonderful it was making the mid-range far too thin, almost like the earpieces were labouring to reveal detail.

Tonight I switched back to this ugly poo blue Rhapsodio cable which is meant to be mono crystal copper (it does sound very good though) . Straight away the detail and thickness returned like when my units first arrived. Plus, the right earpiece stays in perfectly.

As a side note, I don't think the Tralucent cable is bad as I've heard it on other IEM perform well, just a mismatch with my ASG-2. Oh well, I wasn't a fan of the right angle jack anyway.
Indeed custom cables without memory wire can screw up the fit of the ASG (as well as other IEMs too). Usually this is because the heatshrink/sleeve of the cable is not correctly "adjusted"; meaning it is does not conform well to the shape of your ear. I had this problem when I attached a custom cable to my ASG and I used a lighter the reshape the heatshrink and now it fits nicely.
post #3689 of 3690
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Originally Posted by hikari50 View Post


Indeed custom cables without memory wire can screw up the fit of the ASG (as well as other IEMs too). Usually this is because the heatshrink/sleeve of the cable is not correctly "adjusted"; meaning it is does not conform well to the shape of your ear. I had this problem when I attached a custom cable to my ASG and I used a lighter the reshape the heatshrink and now it fits nicely.

 

Certainly something going amiss with the connector plug and ear hook, I believe this was constantly causing the earpiece to pull away from my canal (outwards force). The right earpiece has no way to relax and movement simply intensifies the strain, it causes much frustration. I tried several methods including resetting the ear hook, bending towards an angle, several tips its simply a problem child. The closest tips that I found worked were SpinFit tips (which are very smart design).

post #3690 of 3690

I trimmed away most of the wire from my stock cable with the 2s, left enough to keep it anchored, so now it and sits more naturally/easily in my ear, they really fit so well in my ears that the wire was more getting in the way then helping to hold them in? just thinking about it now I probably could trim all the wire away, and then super glue it to keep it anchored? hhmmm, looks like I have to find my super glue, then they can fit even more freely,

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