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post #31 of 42
1/15/02 at 10:07pm
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I've been wanting to get into MD, but since CDR is so "cheap 'n easy" and I'm on a heavy budget I am leaning toward CDR.
I wouldn't dream of trying to copy Vinyl to CD-R on either of my 'puters, both HP, but my Phillips Audio CD-R/RW definitely makes some good recordings. I don't have MD so can't compare, but lossless recording to redbook CD has got to be better, and I think the Phillips CD-R/RW units have pretty decent ADC/DAC's.

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post #32 of 42
1/16/02 at 12:37am
My Dad has the Philips Dual tray CDR/RW recorder. I am not at all impressed with it. Some of it's operation is just a bit "funky" to me. I don't trust it.

My brother got the Philips unit with a record tray and a cd changer built in. He discovered (and was told by Philips later) that it won't use Memorex discs, and is finicky about some.

I have the $299 Pioneer single tray audio deck cd recorder. I love it. It is well made and records well. I have had no problems with audio TDK or Memorex CDR's or CDRW's. I use this for all my recording now. It has a lot of inputs and outputs. Philips does not always have that.


I also use a Rega Planet CD player. The Pioneer is no match for the Rega, playbackwise.
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post #33 of 42
1/16/02 at 4:03am
I've got the single tray Phillips. Sometimes the operation isn't completely intuitive, but so many more versatile (feature wise) audio products are that way. I haven't found any blanks it won't work with, but I've only tried Maxell, Memorex and TDK. I primarily use a Maxell CD-RW and then copy to a computer CD-R. Because when I first got the recorder, audio CD-R's were a lot more expensive than computer CD-R's. Audio discs are getting a lot cheaper now though. Got 80 minute audio CD-R's at Costco for $0.90 each.

The only problem I've had with the Phillips is, sometimes it doesn't want to sync for analog recording. Just run it manual. Actually be forced to listen to what I'm recording. (sigh)

Overall, I love the machine. I'd recommend it to anyone. I don't know how it compares with multi-disc units, so can't comment.
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post #34 of 42
1/16/02 at 1:08pm
It is my understanding that except for the specially-long CD-R variants, there is no real difference between data and audio CD-R discs except for the formatting. The premium you're paying for in "audio CDs" are for the marketing, packaging, and the preformatting. The software for your burner will take care of the formatting.

I have had excellent results using Sony CD-R and CD-RW discs with my Matsu****a burner on my laptop; the software is the ubiquitous Roxio/Adaptec CD Creator.
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post #35 of 42
1/16/02 at 3:31pm
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Originally posted by JML
It is my understanding that except for the specially-long CD-R variants, there is no real difference between data and audio CD-R discs except for the formatting. The premium you're paying for in "audio CDs" are for the marketing, packaging, and the preformatting. The software for your burner will take care of the formatting.
The premium you are paying is for the license fee to the RIAA, who successfully made the argument that burning audio CD's would cut into their sales, so that they should receive a royalty from each disc sold for that purpose.
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post #36 of 42
1/16/02 at 3:40pm
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Originally posted by JML
It is my understanding that except for the specially-long CD-R variants, there is no real difference between data and audio CD-R discs except for the formatting. The premium you're paying for in "audio CDs" are for the marketing, packaging, and the preformatting. The software for your burner will take care of the formatting.

I have had excellent results using Sony CD-R and CD-RW discs with my Matsu****a burner on my laptop; the software is the ubiquitous Roxio/Adaptec CD Creator.
This is sort of true. The primary thing you (me) are paying for with audio CD blanks is a tiny bit of code on the disc that flags the recorder that you have paid a royalty fee to the GREEDY RECORDING INDUSTRY. Sorry for yelling. The B***ards p**s me off.

Anyway, an Audio CD Recorder looks for that flag, and won't record without it. That's more of the GREEDY, ETC. trying to make sure they get paid for their "Property".

I prefer to record from analog sources directly to CD through my main system. Making digital to digital CD copies is great on the PC, but anywhere the signal goes through audio circuits, I'd just as soon keep all the computer "noise" away from it.
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post #37 of 42
1/16/02 at 8:22pm
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Originally posted by redshifter
please forward me your exact address and the next time you'll be out of town. thank you.

interesting you like the md version better than the cd for ripping lps. btw, does richer sound have a website and ship to the us?


Hehehe, i'm like a hermit! With my audio gear there is never any need to go out of the house....... erm, well I do have to work but I always make sure somebody is in. Can't blame me can you?

I prefer the MD as it tends to hide some of the background hash on some my less 'well tended for' LP's. I tend to copy mostly early '70s Country Rock (I know, theres no accounting for taste :-) ) and some have had a hard life. Also, MD is easier to edit and if I do hit across a snag, like a track that jumps at it's not permanent. To me there is no real significant loss on the LP's that get recorded to MD - there is perhaps a touch less life in the MD, but hey it's the music that counts right?
When I am happy with my copies then I can always put them to CD later if I wish.

Also, the JA30ES has a great ADC and fed from my tuner (complete with 23 element yagi. YES!!! ) I can make some quite stunning recordings, especially the quality ones from the BBC.



Richer Sounds do have a website at http://www.richer-sounds.co.uk As for shipping to the US, you will have to mail to find about that.




Right, i'll get back to lurking and listening to this Crosby, Stills & Nash CD :-)

Sound as ever,
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post #38 of 42
1/16/02 at 8:26pm
Is that a Gram Parsons icon? Need copies of those three LPs?
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post #39 of 42
1/16/02 at 9:01pm
Yup, that is indeed the one and only Gram Parsons....


I currently have the following GP stuff on vinyl:
Gilded Palace Of Sin
Burrito Deluxe
Last Of the Red Hot Burrito's
Close Up The Honky Tonks
Sleepless Nights
GP
Grevious Angel

I've been pretty lucky in that my local dealer usually has lot's of that sort of stuff in stock. He is always amenable to getting stuff in for me if I ask for it.

However, i'm still looking for; The Byrds - Sweetheart Of The Rodeo

Incidentally, just released over here in the UK is the album from
The International Submarine Band - Safe at home. I guess i'll be buying this one on 180g vinyl in the next week or so.

I am also very tempted by Stephen Stills - Mannassas also in 180g vinyl.




Sound as ever
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post #40 of 42
1/16/02 at 9:20pm
I meant those last three. The "solo" two and the lost tracks on the Burrito Bros. Sleepless Nights.

I used to have all of them. Don't ask. Also used to dream of Emmylou...
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post #41 of 42
1/16/02 at 9:36pm
For an 'old' lady she is still quite hot.

She is aging well.


BTW, nice to meet somebody else who's even heard of Gram Parsons. There doesn't seem to be many of us and there are even fewer here in the UK.



Sound as ever
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post #42 of 42
1/17/02 at 12:08am
Thread Starter 
thanks mick, from one hermit to another. at least i'm a hermit when there's plenty of anchor steam or becks beer around... and of course a pair of cd-1700 cans...
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