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post #211 of 244
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Originally Posted by vocalist View Post

I'm looking at the same exact 3 iem's and am having a heck of a time choosing. I listen to equal amounts of classical (opera/orchestral/vocal) and rock/alternative with some jazz (Ella, Sinatra, Ellington, etc.).  I don't want to thread-jack but would love to know if anyone can comment as I'd like to not start another thread but I need to make a decision. I do need isolation (plane & home).  

 

Someone mentioned a smaller soundstage for jazz and being a singer, I'd have to agree. 

Make  UM3x RC a tried??


Edited by Skullbox - 12/12/12 at 7:23am
post #212 of 244
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Originally Posted by FlatNine View Post

At this point I seem have narrowed it down to the Westone UM3X or the Westone 4R. Westone customer service was sooo helpful (which goes a long way) and said I could try them for 30 days and return them if I don't like them. The things that weighed in favor of Westone are the ergonomics, the sound sig, and the service. Since a huge portion of the usage for me is a 2 1/2 hour train commute, each way, isolation is key. Apparently the Sony's lack a bit there. The SE535's high end sig may not be for me either. I sold my Grado 325's after a couple of months because I found the high end grated on my nerves after a while. As I mentioned, I love the sonic curve of my Senn 650's, and if the Westone's are like that, I'll be happy. I just need to decide if the 4R's are $100 better then the UM3X's. Decisions!

I listen at same kind of music like yours! Betwen the two, have make a décision either! Westone cs suggest me, based on my music genre préférence (jazz, female vocal, soft rock, alternative, electronica...) to go for the ... UM3x RC

Many stafs at Westone and EarphSol. favorite. Have 530 and SE535 sold recently. My décision was btw 4r or UM3Xrc! After reading and reading and talk with many people in music expertise, experiences, explain technicaly difference btw the 2 signature. One is more neutral, balanced. The second, little more base, low freq. more pleasing! But, less base than the w3. Hard to explain, am not a specialist.in technicaly  (sorry formy por englisch) My decision today will be UM3x RC (Built in USA) (W1-4 built in CHINA) Bonne Chance! :)

post #213 of 244
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Originally Posted by HK-47 View Post

My commutes used to be even longer, at about 3 to 3.5 hours each way. eek.gif

 

As the others have said, the UM3X doesn't have a big soundstage -- I suppose that comes with the forward mids. I wouldn't call it lush either (maybe warm) but it's definitely not fatiguing.

Yeah! As the others have said, the UM3x doesn't need a big soundstage (it's not intended for clasical music) For jazzy music, vocals,... For this, SE535 and UM3x is a better alternative. Anyway, you have 30 days return.

 

:)


Edited by Skullbox - 12/11/12 at 11:51am
post #214 of 244
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Originally Posted by FlatNine View Post

Ok - I just got 'em and I am listening to them now. I've learned over the time I've been involved in head-fi, that reviewing anything the first day or even first week often leads to an infatuation bias. But, having listened to these for about 10 minutes now, I can say - objectively - the following: They are the most comfortable IEM's I've ever worn. The seal is great, yet I don't feel like my ears are being raped. Listening to ALAC through my iPod Touch (3g 64gb) the sound is *very* clear. I can tell that it doesn't have that warmth like the HD650's though. But - in fairness, I always listen to the Senns though my TTVJ amp, which is warm amp. Hmmmm - hang on....

 

:: hooks up TTVJ Slim to LOD ::

 

Ok - going though the TTVJ amp, there is a bit more warmth. But the thing I am mosy happy about, at least at this early point in the game is that these things are soooooooooooooo comfortable. If I wasn't being so "IEM aware", what with these being brand new and all, I could definitely see me forgetting they're even on. Let's see how I feel in a couple of weeks.

Infatuation bias... can you able to translate this parapphrase for me please?  :)  Hooook up!!

post #215 of 244
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Originally Posted by xinghui0711 View Post

sony ex1000 could be a good option but it is expensive in original price.biggrin.gif  UM3X is good enough. I haven't heard the W4 and SE530 yet.  

Correctly right! ;-)

post #216 of 244
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Originally Posted by Skullbox View Post

Correctly right! ;-)

I personally preferred the Westone 4 to the UM3X.  I could listen to the W4 for hours (and did!) but not so much with the UM3X.  Can't put my finger on why but it's been a few months since I've heard them.  

post #217 of 244
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Originally Posted by proton007 View Post

SE425 is a good option for mid forward music, neutral, not very bright.

UM3 is a good alternative to this one! with plenty presence of bass...!!

post #218 of 244
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

 

 

Well, I was pretty much happy when I bought my Westone 4Rs. If anything, they have too much bass for me. 

Have read that W4r have less base than the UM3x! Is it true?  W4 is more neutral, balanced. Very good for clasical music. vs  Um3x more base, (less than the UM3) ideal for jazz and have little soudstage!!

post #219 of 244
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Originally Posted by skfktkwjs View Post

if you love vocal 532, If you love seperation and sound stage go for W4

UM3X is more like rock and metal

Umm not so sure about that! UM3x is suited most for jazzy kinda music genre! Stage performer iem. Give a call to Michelle to Earphone solution, or Rachelle to Westone cs they answer all your answers!  :-)

post #220 of 244
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

 

 

True, the SE535 feels warmer, but the Westone 4 has more bass.

... yep! but less than the UM3x Rachelle to Westone just telle me that W4r is more Neutral, balanced. If he has more base, so it is not called Neutral then!! Rachelle is a women that have tried all (almost) of them! I think, She can be a good person to tell all about differences iems!

post #221 of 244
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Sounding natural and neutral at the same time? What sorcery is this? 

Anyway, I preferred the W4 over the UM3x because of the not-so-cramped soundstage and also the highs sound better in my opinion. Also the UM3x has more bass to me, which the W4 already has too much for me. But one thing the UM3x is better is obviously the instrumental separation. 

Yep! For me, Natural = Neutrality. Balanced! UM3x have more bass yep, little more!  I love my SE535! I have sold recently. Now just want to, not upgrade, but maybe, sidegrade!? Want to change, discover new sound signature! Am leaning fron W4r vs UM3x (rc) My 535 was called balanced, neutral, like the W4. UM3x have little more... Am not spécialist, I cant tell, compares...UM3x The brain can easily deal with all that music, freq...its only a question of times! First day you hate, and, the next, you love! If you smart enough to talk to your brain, and tell him this is the kind of music you like, (neutral,bal, warmth, and so on) you will be in love with your W4 for ever! Just to, when you let your brain to change your idea,thought.  [UM series(made in USA) all Wseries(made in China)   Call Rachelle for more tech info! 

post #222 of 244
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

 

 

 

Well, it's only me I guess, I think the EX-100 has too much bass for me as well.

If i can tell something... I don't think that Sony EX-100 is fit in this middleweight arena! EX-100 is = SE425 -  UM3 - maybe W3 - IE8....Dont fit in the big league of SE535 - W4r - UM3x RC  My opinion!  :-)

post #223 of 244
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Originally Posted by delladood View Post

luckily I have owned the SE425. Its honestly preference. And no! The etymotic can go about 10x deeper than the shures with the comply P-series that comes with all of the westone products.  yeah that always annoyed me when the jack wouldnt fit in my iphone 4 case.  As far as SE425 vs UM3X. I think its preference.  I wouldn't get hung up on the whole 2 vs 4 drivers. Because more drivers doesn't necessarily mean better.  The SE425 has a pretty chilled and boring sound signature to me.  I like them both, so its hard to say which one I would choose.  Given my current state.  Most likely the UM3X.

Agree ;-)

post #224 of 244

Any reason you not considering W3?  The only reason I would be hesitant on UM3X is the closed in small soundstage.  After a couple months you may find it boring and want a more open sound with more air....and that's what W3 would give you.  I like both but would always reach for the W3 first.  More fun more lively sounding.

post #225 of 244
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

Comply are all generic in their own models. There isn't really sizes. There isn't different sizes because they all can be compressed.

Like the Shure kit, 3 pairs, (SML) 3 diff size (diam)    the size in not in lenght, but in diameter only. Normaly, the one that came with iem is medium size! U will have to purchace later in kit pack the size you will need!

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