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post #1936 of 2868
Thanks Al.
Will start playing EQ on the Foobar
post #1937 of 2868
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Is the unit you have the 800 or 600. .

I have the 800
Al

 

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Is the unit you have the 800 or 600. .

I have the 800
Al

If HDVD should be 800, as the 600 is HDVA.
So Al, have you made the comparison between single-ended vs balance for the HD800? Thank

 

Correct, it is the HDVD, so it is the 800...

 

I made very comprehensive comparisons between the single-ended and the balanced outputs. With the power-wise rather frugal LCD-X I was not able to recognise a difference.  If I had to make a blind-test, I would not be able to tell which is which. But surely others with better hearing than me come to different results.

 

But with the quite "hungry" K-1000 with balanced the all over sound impression was "clearer" and better controlled.

post #1938 of 2868
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Correct, it is the HDVD, so it is the 800...

I made very comprehensive comparisons between the single-ended and the balanced outputs. With the power-wise rather frugal LCD-X I was not able to recognise a difference.  If I had to make a blind-test, I would not be able to tell which is which. But surely others with better hearing than me come to different results.

But with the quite "hungry" K-1000 with balanced the all over sound impression was "clearer" and better controlled.

Thanks for the impressions.
By any chance you have HD800? as I'm not familiar at all with the 2 cans
post #1939 of 2868
Now that makes sense and is good to know. Now worth the woo WA22. Balanced makes a big difference . And it's not power related . The amp is really a good amp but not in SE mode
Al
post #1940 of 2868
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Correct, it is the HDVD, so it is the 800...

I made very comprehensive comparisons between the single-ended and the balanced outputs. With the power-wise rather frugal LCD-X I was not able to recognise a difference.  If I had to make a blind-test, I would not be able to tell which is which. But surely others with better hearing than me come to different results.

But with the quite "hungry" K-1000 with balanced the all over sound impression was "clearer" and better controlled.

Thanks for the impressions.
By any chance you have HD800? as I'm not familiar at all with the 2 cans

Sorry, no. But I tested it with numerous amps and recently auditioned the HD800 with the HDVD800 in SE mode. This was the first time that I liked the HD800 to the extend that I was ready to admitt that it in fact is (respectively can be) a world class phone. Even if it still wasn't exactly matching with my sound preferences. But that is more a question of personal taste now.
Edited by musikaladin - 2/24/14 at 9:06am
post #1941 of 2868

It is true that in the end, it all goes to the taste.

However, I do believe that some phone is technically better than others by the standard that we can measure. I just rather have Flat FR through my audio signal chain and let the recording itself tune the taste.

 

Here is a very interesting test I found on online:

 

https://www.goldenears.philips.com/en/index.html

 

I think all the people in the world can get the gold ear, but majority of them need some training to get there.The thing is, if you do not even know what you are looking for, it is very easy for you to miss the difference for sure. For me, I do notice difference between balance and single ended output on HDVD800. Not sure if it my brain doing the trick, but I do see the bass quality change for the same recording. As well as the high frequency extension.

 

P.S.

After this test, I also find that HD800 does has a very flat FR and helps you go through the test much easier compare to my other phones like T1, ESP950 or Edition 8. So, maybe you need to use the HD800 to test the difference, maybe it is more revealing than your LCD3.


Edited by AlanHell - 2/24/14 at 11:51am
post #1942 of 2868
It is most defintly more revieling .

Al
post #1943 of 2868
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Sorry, no. But I tested it with numerous amps and recently auditioned the HD800 with the HDVD800 in SE mode. This was the first time that I liked the HD800 to the extend that I was ready to admitt that it in fact is (respectively can be) a world class phone. Even if it still wasn't exactly matching with my sound preferences. But that is more a question of personal taste now.

Thanks mate. Agree with you.
At this level, it all comes down to personal taste.
post #1944 of 2868
Yes it does , that and good recordings cause the level of detail will please or cut you. Lol.

Al
post #1945 of 2868
There has been some comments on this thread that the dac in the HDVD800 is sub par. This article ( http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html) published yesterday mirrors my thoughts on dacs. I own the odac and it sounds identical to the dac in the hdvd800 to me. Have a read before deciding you need a £1000 dac to go with this amp.

Regards , James.
post #1946 of 2868

I agree with you, but still when I compared my odac with my hrt hd, I could hear a difference in the sound definition in favour of the hrt dac (not that much to justify the price gap though). Anyway, it's an interesting read

post #1947 of 2868
Enough with the DAC ok it stinks. But so does the ODAC
but the amp is really good and I am waiting to hear some one say that
And i do not care who reviewed it
It is just an opinion. My opinion is it's ok
It's not a 2 k DAC and it is only 500 more
And the ODAC is ok too.
But if someone is buying something for the hd800 and has a budget
The combo is fine. We all have read reviews that are just wrong to some
People here. Like the LCD are so defining
For who not me. They are not dark but not revieling
Al
post #1948 of 2868
Did you read the article? Some well put together blind tests comparing probably the best dac in the world with cheaper dacs . They all sounded the same . But if you want to believe expensive dacs sound better that's up to you.
post #1949 of 2868
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Enough with the DAC ok it stinks. But so does the ODAC
but the amp is really good and I am waiting to hear some one say that
And i do not care who reviewed it
It is just an opinion. My opinion is it's ok
It's not a 2 k DAC and it is only 500 more
And the ODAC is ok too.
But if someone is buying something for the hd800 and has a budget
The combo is fine. We all have read reviews that are just wrong to some
People here. Like the LCD are so defining
For who not me. They are not dark but not revieling
Al


Au contraire, the review shows to me quite the opposite: IF the odac and the 1k £ dac, sound the same, then hdvd dac can't be that bad as someone could say: so there is no need to put money in a more expensive equipment. Overall it's a fine, overpriced, system :D

post #1950 of 2868
Ok so here is something for you to understand

All dacs sound the same is just statments said
By people who are trolling.
First off are you saying and really beleave that a 200 ODAC
sounds like a 3000 pwd mkii. Really
It is a matter of resutions in your system.
Example. Ever wonder why all music sounds the same in your car
Or radio in your home. It has a limited resolution
So if the headphones and amp are also limited
So is what you hear.
And speakers have far more resolution then headphones
So if you want to hear the difference from a cheap DAC
To better one you need a system that can reveal
It. Anyway I just tried to help so keep spreading wrongful info
To further confuse people who come here to learn
Al
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