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post #1801 of 2505
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Originally Posted by boatheelmusic View Post

Hi all-

I would like to use the HDVD as a preamp in my 2 channel setup with amps and speakers.

Does the front panel volume control adjust output levels on the rear panel XLR outs?

Many thanks,


sadly no................

you ask asking too much for a device that is ONLY $2000.

post #1802 of 2505
Really too bad.

I would think this was easily done!

Switchable would be the best!

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by AlanHell View Post
 


sadly no................

you ask asking too much for a device that is ONLY $2000.

 

I use my Bifrost/Asgard 2 setup as a preamp to my Denon receiver, and it actually works pretty well 

Of course, nothing compares to using a real dedicated DAC/Preamp but the Asgard output is pretty damn good 

 

Why i do this? The DAC section of Denon is very, very old and very, very tinny.


Edited by zackzack - 1/12/14 at 11:07pm
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Has anyone done a thorough comparison between the HDVD 800 and the Burson Conductor (in terms of driving the DH800's, or in general)?  They are pretty much in the same league and should be comparable.  I currently have the Conductor but am ever so tempted to buy the HDVD 800 but am unable to audition it first.....  I also like the look of the Woo Audio WA7 (and can't do an audition of that either) but perhaps that one is not such a fair comparison....  Logic sais that Sennheiser would know how to build an amp for the HD800's better than any other manufacturer but this is not always the case and some reviews suggest that the HDVD is better for some of the other Sennheisers and not so much the HD800.... anyway, would love some comments on HDVD800 vs Conductor as I have only comments to go by....!

post #1805 of 2505

I am one of those who doesn't  think the HDVA 600 is much of an amp with the HD 800. Much preferred (by a long margin) the Auralic Taurus in my audition head to head. Or buy something cheaper - I can recommend the Graham Slee Solo.

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Originally Posted by driggs View Post
 

Has anyone done a thorough comparison between the HDVD 800 and the Burson Conductor (in terms of driving the DH800's, or in general)?  They are pretty much in the same league and should be comparable.  I currently have the Conductor but am ever so tempted to buy the HDVD 800 but am unable to audition it first.....  I also like the look of the Woo Audio WA7 (and can't do an audition of that either) but perhaps that one is not such a fair comparison....  Logic sais that Sennheiser would know how to build an amp for the HD800's better than any other manufacturer but this is not always the case and some reviews suggest that the HDVD is better for some of the other Sennheisers and not so much the HD800.... anyway, would love some comments on HDVD800 vs Conductor as I have only comments to go by....!


Many people on the Conductor thread here like what they hear with the HD800.  I myself am looking for some reportage by a number of people who have tried both amps and can comment on their experience; leaving cables out of the discussion.

post #1807 of 2505
If the burson is a well built amp it will sound identical to the HDVD800 and all other well built solid state amps. So the decision comes down to price / looks/ connectivity.
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After six month of listening to the HDVD 800 i would like to say that in my opinion it's a perect match for the Hd800. And that statment includes the integrated dac. I think it's colored in a way that perfectly fits the HD 800. That means the given transparancy and clearity of the Hd800 always feels comfortable using the HDVD and never too mutch. Bass is also filled up a bit but still very controlled and deep. Using different dacs i alway came back to the internal dac ( m2tech young with external accu, audio gd, etc.) In certain aspects this dacs may sound better - but all in all the HDVDs dac gives me more fun and ist still detailed and spacy. I think it fits the headphone better then other do. And when you begin to think about prices its cheap cause you get a top usb implementation. ......but of cause just my opinion.
Edited by Blink66 - 1/15/14 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by Blink66 View Post

After six month of listening to the HDVD 800 i would like to say that in my opinion it's a perect match for the Hd800. And that statment includes the integrated dac. I think it's colored in a way that perfectly fits the HD 800. That means the given transparancy and clearity of the Hd800 always feels comfortable using the HDVD and never too mutch. Bass is also filled up a bit but still very controlled and deep. Using different dacs i alway came back to the internal dac ( m2tech young with external accu, audio gd, etc.) In certain aspects this dacs may sound better - but all in all the HDVDs dac gives me more fun and ist still detailed and spacy. I think it fits the headphone better then other do. And when you begin to think about prices its cheap cause you get a top usb implementation. ......but of cause just my opinion.


Have you compared the HDVD with the Burson Conductor at all by any chance with the HD800's?

post #1810 of 2505
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Originally Posted by King of Pangaea View Post
 


Many people on the Conductor thread here like what they hear with the HD800.  I myself am looking for some reportage by a number of people who have tried both amps and can comment on their experience; leaving cables out of the discussion.


Yes, exactly, that's what I'm looking for...

post #1811 of 2505
Sorry driggs - my statment was not meant as an answer to your question. No Burson Conducter heared here.....
But if you own a HD800 the HDVD800 is a good choice because its simply tuned to let the HD800 sound just fine - it compensates some "faults" of this headphone (sometimes a bit harsh, slim bass) without adding new ones. Maybe the Conductor is a more universal amp? But that's just guessing.
Main reason for my reply in this forum was my opinion that the dac of this amplifer is underrated and doesn't deserve all that bashing.
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Originally Posted by Blink66 View Post

Sorry driggs - my statment was not meant as an answer to your question. No Burson Conducter heared here.....
But if you own a HD800 the HDVD800 is a good choice because its simply tuned to let the HD800 sound just fine - it compensates some "faults" of this headphone (sometimes a bit harsh, slim bass) without adding new ones. Maybe the Conductor is a more universal amp? But that's just guessing.
Main reason for my reply in this forum was my opinion that the dac of this amplifer is underrated and doesn't deserve all that bashing.


well,I think the DAC is good for the money. For what it performs, $400 dollar is a bargain price. 

However compare to the level of the amp, it is just not there.

Any decent sub $1000 DAC can blow the on board DAC away with details and dynamics.

For people that  is going for the level of this amp, the DAC they are expecting is much more than just "good for the price".  With $1600 spend on the amp, it makes no sense  to power it with some "OK" DAC. That will be a big waste of money. People rather go with a DAC + AMP combo that matches in performance and cost much less.

However, that is not how we roll on headfi isn't it? :P

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Seriously the dac is fine. You can spend 10,000 on a dac and it will sound the same . Dacs are not magical devices that somehow make everything sound better. Read the tech specs on the built on dac and you will see it is a transparent dac. It meets all the criteria so it will play the 1 and 0s back exactly how they were recorded. Heck even the dac in my I phone is pretty much transparent to human ears. Our ears are the limiting factor now that's how far things have come. I know this hobby is fun and we all want to enjoy new gear but seriously spend money on music and headphones not dacs. The thing people need to remember that once a dac hits all the criteria for being transparent the next best dac could have even less thd / jitter / frequency response that extends to 192khz etc but it won't sound any better to your human ears. It's a fact.
post #1814 of 2505
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvireu2SGZM

I like this video because it highlights some important points. Worth a watch before spending lots of money on equipment.
post #1815 of 2505

James, I will tell you only this. That is what one of my college professors told me. He said "Antun. in theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." It is a guideline engineers in many fields prove every day. So regarding differences in amplification and D/A conversion, if you cannot detect a difference, there are quite a few people out there that can and in fact do on a daily basis.

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