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post #751 of 2327
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

Damn, Cooperpwc - I have every album (oops - disc or mp3) you mentioned in your review. I love all of them with my IE8's - maybe when I sell the novel, I can afford the IE800's - or even find them in SoCal.... 

 

Keep writing!  (My brother is a novelist. However, I am not sure if it ever allowed him to afford the IE800. He makes better money with travel articles.)

 

Yes, I have been listening to a lot of rock and harder blues with the IE800s. The IE800 handles that so well and the music is still a mainstay for me. However I am increasingly using the IE800 with other music like jazz and bluegrass with very good results. I still have to spend more time exploring my folk collection...

post #752 of 2327

hedphonz, good music suggestions. Thanks!

 

It is funny that you raised the issue of equalization again as I just started playing with that anew. I have a new profile that I like. This is more subtle than my previous -2dB bass setting as this just adjusts bass by -1dB. It is also quite different as I am leaving the sub-bass untouched. I think that the IE800's sub-bass is wonderful. Instead I am lopping 1dB off a wide section of the mid-bass. Here it is:

 

 

1000

 

This reduces the bass slam a tiny bit for better and for worse. It is unnecessary at softer volumes and also with music that has under-mixed bass. (An example is Husker Du's great "New Day Rising" which sound excellent on the IE800 as well as Van Halen's less great but still fun "OU812".) I do however enjoy this -1dB equalization with a lot of other music at louder volumes. It is surprising that -1dB would make a difference but it does. It refocuses attention away from the bass to the mids and thereby gives a better sense of balance. It is also a bit less brain rattling.

 

It is still too early to say how much I will use this but I have been enjoying it today. (Of course, I may well tweak it further)

post #753 of 2327
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

Let me guess. Is it also shorter?  :-)

 

No, I believe the length is correct for the IE8. I was rather thinking along the lines of a copy/paste error. evil_smiley.gif

post #754 of 2327
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No, I believe the length is correct for the IE8. I was rather thinking along the lines of a copy/paste error. evil_smiley.gif

 

Hah!

 

(Have you actually measured your IE800s? I am curious as to whether my cable might be unusually/incorrectly short.) 

post #755 of 2327
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

(Have you actually measured your IE800s? I am curious as to whether my cable might be unusually/incorrectly short.) 

 

It's the same length as yours. The IE8 cable was 40cm above the splitter and the new one is only 25cm. 

post #756 of 2327
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

It's the same length as yours. The IE8 cable was 40cm above the splitter and the new one is only 25cm. 

 

Thank you for checking that. Yes, I measured around 10" to 10.5" for the upper cable (depending on how you do it) which is the same.

post #757 of 2327
Now I think some type of disclaimer should go before my quick impressions, it's completely uncontrolled and a relatively couple of minutes quick listen. But I admit to be not crazy about these, very nice mids possibly best iem mids I've heard, so I think senn has some part of the design down. But clarity seems to be middling in its class and the FR isn't suited to all tracks (expectation bias from James' review?) so I've cooled on this one a bit.
post #758 of 2327
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Originally Posted by Ypoknons View Post

Now I think some type of disclaimer should go before my quick impressions, it's completely uncontrolled and a relatively couple of minutes quick listen. But I admit to be not crazy about these, very nice mids possibly best iem mids I've heard, so I think senn has some part of the design down. But clarity seems to be middling in its class and the FR isn't suited to all tracks (expectation bias from James' review?) so I've cooled on this one a bit.

another interesting first impression - what is your source and amp if any ?

post #759 of 2327
ipad 3rd generation with no external amp.
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My Christmas present for myself, the IE800 is finally in the house. Just arrived a few hours ago. Only listened to them for around 5 minutes, burning them in at the moment (dynamic driver after all - IE8 at least changed a lot for a day or so). Not going to talk about the sound much yet, but they are very comfortable. Build quality (as expected) is stunning. I can´t seem to stand normal IEM models, the insertion is too deep (hi Shure!) and my ears can´t breathe. No problem with that here, the vented design is wonderful. There is definitely microphonics, but that´s never bothered me much. Can be a deal breaker for some though. The clip-on tips work nicely, can´t say how well they stay put yet of course though. The double grill is neat, these will be easy to clean.

 

As for the sound: bass hits hard and goes lower than on any IEM I´ve ever heard. Midrange has a very wonderful glow/presence to it. Seems like a turbo Shure 530 SQ wise. I´ll post more tomorrow. Looking good so far. Disclaimer: I have nothing against some coloration in my mobile audio gear since I mostly listen to more mainstream material then.


Edited by vrln - 1/3/13 at 10:25am
post #761 of 2327
I have little doubt these are better than the 2008 era IEMs, I don't know the IE8 but the 530s and triple.fi I do know very well, both dynamics and BA have gotten better, presumably as the designers have experiance and time to tweak. But in the current gauntlet of EX1000, even UE900, the IE800s are in for a tough fight.
post #762 of 2327

Sometime this year I'll get to demo them :). I really hope they are better than the EX1000 lol.
 

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I have tweaked my -1dB EQ profile slightly and I think that I am really onto something. I am rolling off the equalization a bit earlier which has brought back the IE800's innate slam albeit at the reduced level of bass. I find that at louder volumes (my normal +/- 85dB) I am turning this on and off according to the album. For albums produced with anemic bass, I am happy with the IE800's natural sound signature. However for many albums, the slight reduction works beautifully. (The latest example is Radiohead's OK Computer.) Everything comes beautifully into balance. Since it is only -1dB, there is still lots of bass - and with this iteration, bass slam too.

 

Here it is:

 

 

700

 

This -1dB EQ profile also resolves the "genre issue" in my view. I have been listening to a lot of folk and acoustic pop music over the past day. James Taylor, Peter Paul and Mary, Cat Stevens, Marc Cohn, Joni Mitchell, Lindisfarne, Neil Young, Waterboys... all are sounding great.

post #764 of 2327
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

I have tweaked my -1dB EQ profile slightly and I think that I am really onto something. I am rolling off the equalization a bit earlier which has brought back the IE800's innate slam albeit at the reduced level of bass. I find that at louder volumes (my normal +/- 85dB) I am turning this on and off according to the album. For albums produced with anemic bass, I am happy with the IE800's natural sound signature. However for many albums, the slight reduction works beautifully. (The latest example is Radiohead's OK Computer.) Everything comes beautifully into balance. Since it is only -1dB, there is still lots of bass - and with this iteration, bass slam too.

 

Here it is:

 

 

700

 

This -1dB EQ profile also resolves the "genre issue" in my view. I have been listening to a lot of folk and acoustic pop music over the past day. James Taylor, Peter Paul and Mary, Cat Stevens, Marc Cohn, Joni Mitchell, Lindisfarne, Neil Young, Waterboys... all are sounding great

 

 

 

 

im not sure where im going with the sound profile at the moment - the past 24hrs i feel as if the upper mids and highs are lacking and i have  actually turned them up on the eq - first few days of use i was delighted with the overall sound but now im not sure if its my brain or my devices but im definitely hearing a difference - the  vocals also seem to be missing some sharpness and clarity.

i wonder if its burn in im experiencing ? I didnt think iems were affected by burn in much 

post #765 of 2327

hedphonz, I do not think that it is headphone burn-in but rather brain burn.

 

I think that the IE800 actually resolves a great deal of detail, especially with good amplification. However it does not have a lot of air in the soundstage which makes it completely different from my ES5. This can sometimes feel like a lack of clarity.

 

My view some 11 days in is still that the IE800 is a fabulous portable headphone - my favorite yet. I have been running all over town, on and off subways (and also traveling on fast trains and airplanes). It just works on the go. It has a bold sound signature and incredible presence that suits the outside world (including coffee shops where it drowns out ambient music rather well and creates a lovely space.)  I also have no problem with the resolution once I get past the lack of air. However that lack of air means that It is not a home headphone to my tastes. If you are finding it lacking at home, I am not really surprised.

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