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post #76 of 2339

more sennheiser hype on head-fi? popcorn.gif

 

Although this time, I'll hand it to them - their design looks nice IMO

Isolation? Doubt it.

 

That said, not like the IE8/7's could really isolate that well in the first place...

 

Price wise - They are becoming increasingly like Monster, if not worse.

They couldn't be targeting a more niche market.

Even within audiophiles...there is a limit to thinking - "over-priced"

I mean common 600€...600....really sennheiser? REALLY?!


Edited by Totally Dubbed - 4/15/12 at 3:25pm
post #77 of 2339

I'm waiting for the 1000$ sennheiser cable.

post #78 of 2339
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I'm waiting for the 1000$ sennheiser cable.


I would buy that.

Maybe the $200 silicone tips to go with it.

 

 

post #79 of 2339

can it beat k3003?

post #80 of 2339
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Originally Posted by kellj View Post

can it beat k3003?



I have a feeling that a showdown between this and the K3003 is going to be coming along shortly...

 

The Massively Overpriced, Impractical IEM Challenge: Sennheiser vs. AKG vs. FAD

post #81 of 2339
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post



I have a feeling that a showdown between this and the K3003 is going to be coming along shortly...

 

The Massively Overpriced, Impractical IEM Challenge: Sennheiser vs. AKG vs. FAD



Comments like this upset me because they belittle the engineer's efforts in designing and implementing a product. All three of these iems employ technologies that are relatively unique, and can be classified as niche. The key here is "value." How much do you value this item, and how much are you willing to pay? Would you ever walk into a car dealership in the Beverly Hills, and tell the salesman that the sexy black Lamborghini Murcielago is "Massively Overpriced and impractical"? If the senior head-fi'ers that own the iems mentioned (apart from the Senn, of course) and say they're better than anything other universal they've ever heard, then who are you to say that's not worth something. In the vehicle world, you can pay upwards of $50,000 extra to get a fraction of a second increase in 0-60mph times. 

 

If you feel like the iem is not worth it, then look at the thread and pass by without comment. As far as impracticality goes, it's been said that the FI-BA-SS and K3003 are extremely comfortable, and deliver sound equivalent to flagship full-sized headphones without the need for massive amps, and they're tiny in comparison.

post #82 of 2339
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post  The Massively Overpriced, Impractical IEM Challenge: Sennheiser vs. AKG vs. FAD


LOL. I'd read that!

post #83 of 2339

I'll admit, I like how it looks, and I've been a fan of the sennheisers I've had (HD650, IE8)......so my interest is piqued.  The price is well into custom levels though (which I've avoided so far for reasons other than price).

 

If the actual street price of these drops anywhere under $500 at some point, and the sq is there, I'd snap these up. 

post #84 of 2339
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post



Comments like this upset me because they belittle the engineer's efforts in designing and implementing a product. All three of these iems employ technologies that are relatively unique, and can be classified as niche. The key here is "value." How much do you value this item, and how much are you willing to pay? Would you ever walk into a car dealership in the Beverly Hills, and tell the salesman that the sexy black Lamborghini Murcielago is "Massively Overpriced and impractical"? If the senior head-fi'ers that own the iems mentioned (apart from the Senn, of course) and say they're better than anything other universal they've ever heard, then who are you to say that's not worth something. In the vehicle world, you can pay upwards of $50,000 extra to get a fraction of a second increase in 0-60mph times. 

 

If you feel like the iem is not worth it, then look at the thread and pass by without comment. As far as impracticality goes, it's been said that the FI-BA-SS and K3003 are extremely comfortable, and deliver sound equivalent to flagship full-sized headphones without the need for massive amps, and they're tiny in comparison.


I agree with this entirely, but also want to add a few words...  Why the heck are we judging this IEM before it even gets put into hands?  Why are we making assumptions based on the past?  The past is the past, let it be, the future is the future, let it unfold (before you cast your opinions).   

 


Edited by tinyman392 - 4/15/12 at 7:07pm
post #85 of 2339
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Comments like this upset me because they belittle the engineer's efforts in designing and implementing a product.

That's their job, and sometimes I'm tempted to think that they are telling us story for marketing.
This "5 – 46,500 Hz" audio range is a  joke.

post #86 of 2339
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post



Comments like this upset me because they belittle the engineer's efforts in designing and implementing a product. All three of these iems employ technologies that are relatively unique, and can be classified as niche. The key here is "value." How much do you value this item, and how much are you willing to pay? Would you ever walk into a car dealership in the Beverly Hills, and tell the salesman that the sexy black Lamborghini Murcielago is "Massively Overpriced and impractical"? If the senior head-fi'ers that own the iems mentioned (apart from the Senn, of course) and say they're better than anything other universal they've ever heard, then who are you to say that's not worth something. In the vehicle world, you can pay upwards of $50,000 extra to get a fraction of a second increase in 0-60mph times. 

 

If you feel like the iem is not worth it, then look at the thread and pass by without comment. As far as impracticality goes, it's been said that the FI-BA-SS and K3003 are extremely comfortable, and deliver sound equivalent to flagship full-sized headphones without the need for massive amps, and they're tiny in comparison.


I don't mean to offend. I love technology of all varieties, and also happen to be a dedicated car guy. I understand that it take tons of craftsmanship and engineering effort to make such a device, but I also belive that we don't need to take ourselves too seriously once it's done. The K3003 and FI-BA-SS are amazing earphones, but there's no doubt in this world that they are materially overpriced. I'm not saying that they're inferior because of that, and if I had the money I'd snap up a massively overpriced, impractical device like a Stax SR-009 in a moment. What I'm saying is that it's okay to admit to ourselves that it doesn't take $1000 to make a K3003 or a FAD IEM, and even if they're revolutionary there's still an above-normal profit margin in that.

 

I restore Shelby Mustangs and Cobras for a living, and love every minute. The best part of the job is seeing an owner get his (or sometimes her) concours-ready car from our shop and just hoon the hell out of it, even though the restorations can run into six figures and he or she just knocked at least a few grand off the value by even getting a speck of dirt on the thing. When the final bill is tallied we often get comments from some of the people who've come to us more than once about how they now have to bubble-wrap their cars somewhere due to the cost, but it's all in good fun. We readily admit that our cars, from a parts and mechanical standpoint, are impractical and massively overpriced. That said, that's nothing to be ashamed of. It's just something to joke about, because inside we know that we take pride in that impractical and massively overpriced beauty.

 


Edited by ssrock64 - 4/15/12 at 7:03pm
post #87 of 2339
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post


I don't mean to offend. I love technology of all varieties, and also happen to be a dedicated car guy. I understand that it take tons of craftsmanship and engineering effort to make such a device, but I also belive that we don't need to take ourselves too seriously once it's done. The K3003 and FI-BA-SS are amazing earphones, but there's no doubt in this world that they are materially overpriced. I'm not saying that they're inferior because of that, and if I had the money I'd snap up a massively overpriced, impractical device like a Stax SR-009 in a moment. What I'm saying is that it's okay to admit to ourselves that it doesn't take $1000 to make a K3003 or a FAD IEM, and even if they're revolutionary there's still an above-normal profit margin in that.

 

I restore Shelby Mustangs and Cobras for a living, and love every minute. The best part of the job is seeing an owner get his (or sometimes her) concours-ready car from our shop and just hoon the hell out of it, even though the restorations can run into six figures and he or she just knocked at least a few grand off the value by even getting a speck of dirt on the thing. When the final bill is tallied we often get comments from some of the people who've come to us more than once about how they now have to bubble-wrap their cars somewhere due to the cost, but it's all in good fun. We readily admit that our cars, from a parts and mechanical standpoint, are impractical and massively overpriced. That said, that's nothing to be ashamed of. It's just something to joke about, because inside we know that we take pride in that impractical and massively overpriced beauty.

 



Oh ok. I thought you were trying to say that the iems aren't "worth it." 

post #88 of 2339
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post  This "5 – 46,500 Hz" audio range is a  joke.


Of course it's marketing. It's a press release!

 

I'm also sure, if the instruments used are sensitive enough, and the environmental conditions well-controlled, any dynamic transducer can measure 5-46500... of course, we'll never be able to hear that, but that doesn't stop Sennheiser from putting that on their press materials! Why object to it when we know it's just a number? It's like all those performance figures on cars (to extend the analogy from other peoples' posts). Who actually puts their 0-100 mph times to the test, regularly? How about the quarter-mile? Or even the 0-60? Very few. Yet, no manufacturer really posts 0-30 mph or 30-0 brake times. They're all just numbers that look impressive on a piece of paper, nothing more.

 

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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post

I don't mean to offend. I love technology of all varieties, and also happen to be a dedicated car guy. I understand that it take tons of craftsmanship and engineering effort to make such a device, but I also belive that we don't need to take ourselves too seriously once it's done. The K3003 and FI-BA-SS are amazing earphones, but there's no doubt in this world that they are materially overpriced. I'm not saying that they're inferior because of that, and if I had the money I'd snap up a massively overpriced, impractical device like a Stax SR-009 in a moment. What I'm saying is that it's okay to admit to ourselves that it doesn't take $1000 to make a K3003 or a FAD IEM, and even if they're revolutionary there's still an above-normal profit margin in that.

 

I restore Shelby Mustangs and Cobras for a living, and love every minute. The best part of the job is seeing an owner get his (or sometimes her) concours-ready car from our shop and just hoon the hell out of it, even though the restorations can run into six figures and he or she just knocked at least a few grand off the value by even getting a speck of dirt on the thing. When the final bill is tallied we often get comments from some of the people who've come to us more than once about how they now have to bubble-wrap their cars somewhere due to the cost, but it's all in good fun. We readily admit that our cars, from a parts and mechanical standpoint, are impractical and massively overpriced. That said, that's nothing to be ashamed of. It's just something to joke about, because inside we know that we take pride in that impractical and massively overpriced beauty.


Quality post, and great analogy that holds its roots in real experience! beerchug.gif

 

post #89 of 2339

Phew. Tensions cooled, normality restored, Berlin Wall torn to bits. Just another day of text-based communication in which tone is indistinguishable.

 

Anyways, we were talking about the double bass ports...

post #90 of 2339

I think we should stop spewing out ******** untill someone who we actually trust gets to listen to them a bit and say how they sound.

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