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post #706 of 2471

Nice impressions hedphonz ;). I'll be able to demo them sometime next year so looking forward to that. My IE80s are also gone but they will always have a place in my heart ;).
 

post #707 of 2471

Thanks for your early impressions. Glad you're liking them!  wink_face.gif

 

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Originally Posted by hedphonz View Post

i just got myself a pair of these a couple of days ago and am listening with flacs on a cowon and amped with a meier corda stepdance 2.

After all the negative comments i wasnt expecting much but I am absolutely loving them. Bass is big but so is everything else and I dont find it over powering. They are so much more better than my iIe80's and they will have to be sold now as theres no way I will use them anymore.

I dont think I have ever had so much enjoyment from my music since I got into this hobby. I am a relatively experienced listener with owning grado's, hd650's, hd800's, ie 80's and the IE800's have given me my biggest wow moment ever. I realise its early days and there is a honeymoon period with most devices but the signs for a happy long term relationship are good.

I did notice however that when my amp when flat the ie800's were not nearly as vibrant and I wont be listening directly from the cowon in future.

Also I had no problem with fitting, i just popped them in and they sealed good and as they are very light they didnt move and stayed in place most of the time. I can see why the cable is so light as any heavier and they would pull down on the ear pieces.

For a single dynamic driver in such a small package they really are remarkable.

In a month or so I will post any further impressions if they change substantially. I recommend them highly and if your in the market for a good pair of universals they are very worthy of an audition.

Back to enjoying my music :)

post #708 of 2471
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Originally Posted by hedphonz View Post

i just got myself a pair of these a couple of days ago and am listening with flacs on a cowon and amped with a meier corda stepdance 2.

After all the negative comments i wasnt expecting much but I am absolutely loving them. Bass is big but so is everything else and I dont find it over powering. They are so much more better than my iIe80's and they will have to be sold now as theres no way I will use them anymore.

I dont think I have ever had so much enjoyment from my music since I got into this hobby. I am a relatively experienced listener with owning grado's, hd650's, hd800's, ie 80's and the IE800's have given me my biggest wow moment ever. I realise its early days and there is a honeymoon period with most devices but the signs for a happy long term relationship are good.

I did notice however that when my amp when flat the ie800's were not nearly as vibrant and I wont be listening directly from the cowon in future.

Also I had no problem with fitting, i just popped them in and they sealed good and as they are very light they didnt move and stayed in place most of the time. I can see why the cable is so light as any heavier and they would pull down on the ear pieces.

For a single dynamic driver in such a small package they really are remarkable.

In a month or so I will post any further impressions if they change substantially. I recommend them highly and if your in the market for a good pair of universals they are very worthy of an audition.

Back to enjoying my music :)

 

This. ^   :-)

 

Excellent impressions.

 

I'm not ready to post my impressions yet but I am enjoying the IE800 very much. Interesting that you are also using a Stepdance. i also noticed how the sound quality ramps up with good amplification in a comparison to a DAP headphone out. It surprised me; the difference is much greater than with most BA IEMs.


Edited by cooperpwc - 12/27/12 at 8:05pm
post #709 of 2471

I think I am better of with IE800 than EX-1000. How incredible would it be if we could get a group by thread going for this. :-D

post #710 of 2471
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Originally Posted by hedphonz View Post

I did notice however that when my amp when flat the ie800's were not nearly as vibrant and I wont be listening directly from the cowon in future.

Also I had no problem with fitting, i just popped them in and they sealed good and as they are very light they didnt move and stayed in place most of the time. I can see why the cable is so light as any heavier and they would pull down on the ear pieces.

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

Interesting that you are also using a Stepdance. i also noticed how the sound quality ramps up with good amplification in a comparison to a DAP headphone out. It surprised me; the difference is much greater than with most BA IEMs.

 

Hmm <scratches head>, to my ears the IE800 have already remarkable good dynamics directly from my Cowon i9. My Xin supermicro IV and Graham Slee Voyager are both decent amps, but they didn't provide a significant further improvement.

 

As for seal, I just said you can get a deeper seal with better isolation if you can wear them over the ear, and their strain reliefs prevent that kind of deep fit when worn downwards. Of course they also seal when worn downwards, but you get microphonics if you move.


Edited by james444 - 12/28/12 at 1:18am
post #711 of 2471
Nice sharing! Cheers! I do enjoying my IE800 in last 3 weeks! Sharing the same thoughts with you.
post #712 of 2471
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Originally Posted by Finn78 View Post

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade from the IE8. Do these improve upon them?

 

if you love the Senn signature then why not my friend?

 

the answer is a big yes base on the reviews/impressions smile.gif

post #713 of 2471

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Edited by thinker - 1/19/14 at 1:33am
post #714 of 2471

"Soundstage is similar to Grado PS-1000"

 

Wow not bad!

 

4.I like these more than my Stax SR-009 phones

 

I dont think I can believe you....

post #715 of 2471
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Hmm <scratches head>, to my ears the IE800 have already remarkable good dynamics directly from my Cowon i9. My Xin supermicro IV and Graham Slee Voager are both decent amps, but they didn't provide a significant further improvement.

 

As for seal, I just said you can get a deeper seal with better isolation if you can wear them over the ear, and their strain reliefs prevent that kind of deep fit when worn downwards. Of course they also seal when worn downwards, but you get microphonics if you move.

 

James, the IE800 do have excellent dynamics straight from the Classic. It's difficult to discuss amplification unless we are using the same amps. That is no comment on yours. I have not heard the Supermicro in about seven years and that was in the earliest days when I had no frames of reference. It sounded good. I have never heard the Voyager. It is interesting for Hedphonz and I to compare notes because we are essentially using the same amp and, rightly or wrongly, we perceive things the same way. I have done some listening since reading your post. It is the mark of the Stepdance that is utterly neutral - no change in sound signature. When it makes a difference, it is mostly in a subtle increase in transparency and separation, and a slight widening of the sound stage. With the IE800, I find that increase, particularly in transparency, to be even greater than with my ES5. So in this regard, even though the Classic headphone out provides plenty of bass slam (a definite quality of the IE800), good treble, and overall good sound quality, the sound, especially in the mids, is not as "vibrant" (as Hedphonz put it). I would say that it is kind of flat compared to amping with the Stepdance. Just my initial impression, and as I said, it is too early for me to be posting those.  :-)

 

Regarding fit, these are indeed among the most microphonic IEMs that I have ever used. They are also the most comfortable. Wow, what a strange combination. The "M/L oval" tips that I now prefer might well have been molded for my ear canals. That is very lucky given the problems that I have often had with IEM comfort and fit. For others out there, definitely YMMV. 

 

Over-the-ears would solve the microphonic problem but that is just not an option. It is okay if I hold my head up in a certain way but as soon as I move my head, for example looking down, I choke on the cable! Of course, I have a huge noggin. I also have huge feet. I assure you that these two things do not mean anything. Or maybe they do?

 

Nonetheless, I am getting just as deep a fit now with the cable down as over my ears. It has helped that I have been flexing and softening the rubber strain relief to angle outwards. The connection point seems to be so well manufactured that I do not think this will cause any problems. Anyway, headphones are not museum pieces, they are to be used and enjoyed. The strain relief and cable are flowing outwards through the crease at the bottom of my ear. I don't notice that at all; comfort is supreme. (Lucky me on that; it is a huge pleasant surprise given my history with other IEMs.) The IE800 stay nicely in place with the M/L oval tips and they cannot go any deeper. It is just the same as over the ear. Perhaps give it a try? Work the rubber strain relief carefully to soften it up and bend it out.  I can post a pic of the IE800 in my ears at some point if that will help.


Edited by cooperpwc - 12/27/12 at 11:42pm
post #716 of 2471

Have tried and found the bass overwhelming.

As in too powerful and hard hitting, I'm thinking it will be a problem if I were to purchase it.

I might tolerate a 10mins audition maybe not a 1hr train journey with them on.

 

Who those who owned them don't you think it's bass is too powerful?

Make no mistaken, I thought my IE8 bass at minimum dial was powerful enough.

post #717 of 2471
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Originally Posted by muscular View Post

Have tried and found the bass overwhelming.

As in too powerful and hard hitting, I'm thinking it will be a problem if I were to purchase it.

I might tolerate a 10mins audition maybe not a 1hr train journey with them on.

 

Who those who owned them don't you think it's bass is too powerful?

Make no mistaken, I thought my IE8 bass at minimum dial was powerful enough.

 

like what james said, they are good for commuting, the bass will cancel out much of the ambient noise.. you could tame down the bass a bit i think by having a neutral dap and amp :)

post #718 of 2471
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Originally Posted by muscular View Post

Have tried and found the bass overwhelming.
As in too powerful and hard hitting, I'm thinking it will be a problem if I were to purchase it.
I might tolerate a 10mins audition maybe not a 1hr train journey with them on.

Who those who owned them don't you think it's bass is too powerful?
Make no mistaken, I thought my IE8 bass at minimum dial was powerful enough.

I will have a lot to say on this soon. I'm not quite ready yet.
post #719 of 2471
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post

These are very balanced headphones...

 

I respectfully disagree.

 

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

Over-the-ears would solve the microphonic problem but that is just not an option. It is okay if I hold my head up in a certain way but as soon as I move my head, for example looking down, I choke on the cable! Of course, I have a huge noggin. I also have huge feet. I assure you that these two things do not mean anything. Or maybe they do?

 

Nonetheless, I am getting just as deep a fit now with the cable down as over my ears. It has helped that I have been flexing and softening the rubber strain relief to angle outwards. The connection point seems to be so well manufactured that I do not think this will cause any problems. Anyway, headphones are not museum pieces, they are to be used and enjoyed. The strain relief and cable are flowing outwards through the crease at the bottom of my ear. I don't notice that at all; comfort is supreme. (Lucky me on that; it is a huge pleasant surprise given my history with other IEMs.) The IE800 stay nicely in place with the M/L oval tips and they cannot go any deeper. It is just the same as over the ear. Perhaps give it a try? Work the rubber strain relief carefully to soften it up and bend it out.  I can post a pic of the IE800 in my ears at some point if that will help.

 

Like I said in my review, I'm using the IE800 mostly short-cabled with my wireless headset now. That allows me to wear them over-ear with the receiver dongle clipped to the collar behind my neck. Microphonics are pretty much non-existant that way.

 

Even if I'd bent the strain reliefs outward like you did (to get a deeper fit with cable down), that would still not solve the microphonic problem. I can live with some microphonics on a cheap pair of IEMs, but I simply refuse to put up with it on a super-resolving high-end unit. Raving over microdetails and accepting microphonics just don't go together in my book. wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post

... you could tame down the bass a bit i think by having a neutral dap and amp :)

 

I'm afraid, that's a misconception. Neutral equipment doesn't change anything about the sound signature.

 

Come to think of it, I'll have to try the IE800 with my Nuforce Icon Mobile. This amp has a marked bass roll-off and may actually be beneficial to the IE800's transparency.

 

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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

I will have a lot to say on this soon. I'm not quite ready yet.

 

Looking forward to your impressions. popcorn.gif

post #720 of 2471
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Nice impressions hedphonz ;). I'll be able to demo them sometime next year so looking forward to that. My IE80s are also gone but they will always have a place in my heart ;).
 

 

Man I don't know you are so romantic. :)

 

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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post

 

like what james said, they are good for commuting, the bass will cancel out much of the ambient noise.. you could tame down the bass a bit i think by having a neutral dap and amp :)

 

Yeah that's what I found out with IE80 during flights. The bass overpowers ambient noise or cancel noise. LOL.

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