Originally Posted by Ultrazino
No it's poor as in I can hear twice as many details with the UE900. Of course the V-shape drowns some details, but even with EQ, making the FX700 almost flat (bass -10, treble -8dB) obviously shows that the FX700 has a much poorer resolution.
Back when I borrowed a JH13 demo unit for a week, I A/Bed it to my own IEMs. The FX700 where the only dynamic driver based IEMs that had similar treble resolution. I don't EQ them, and of course mids and bass are not quite as good, but I don't think they miss out that much detail as your post would suggest.
Originally Posted by Mini0510
Understood. In fact, I was just trying to guess the sound quality rating out of 10 according to joker's reviews lol. He rated FI-BA-SS and FX700 both at 9.3. The AKG K3003 was rated at 9.6. I think the IE 800 is probably 9.4 or 9.5 based on what I've read.
But then again, IE 800 is about triple the price of FX700. Since, I'm already 90% satisfied with FX700's sound signature, I'm not dishing out triple the price of FX700 just for sound signature. Of course, I expect a slightly better sound quality/presentation as well.
and James, when you mentioned that AKGs impressed you right out of the box, and for IE 800, they didn't. Is the fit issues, the sibilance, etc that made the IE 800 not very impressive? Or it's the sound quality as well?
You didn't really criticize about the sound quality of IE 800.
Still waiting for your review!
I'd rather agree with joker's 9.3 for the FX700 than for the FI-BA-SS. In fact, he basically criticized the SS for being too transparent ("The texture and detail levels of the FADs are indeed very high and the resulting transparency is simply off the scale – even the CK10 sounds slightly veiled next to the BA-SS." and "This raises a question - is it possible that an earphone can be too detailed, too clear, and too transparent?"). Tbo, I feel that's a bit irrational, accusing a high-end phone of being too transparent, but ymmv.
Let's face it, the FX700 are pretty good value for those who're 90% satisfied with their sound signature, and the next 5% or so will be mercilessly subject to the law of diminishing returns.
Well, since you've been following the thread, it's no secret that I think the IE800's design is a case of missed opportunities, and I have much less of an issue with their sound quality than the former. However, you can't just look at one and disregard the other... here are some reasons why:
- Downward only cable design, pretty high microphonics and lack of an included shirt clip would make you think the IE800 are intended for stationary (home) use
- But sound signature is too bassy for a high-end home rig (by my standards) and much better suited for outdoor use
- A deeper fit will give you clearer and more transparent sound than a shallow fit (though at the risk of increased sibilance)
- However, you can't get a deeper fit with cable downward, due to the unfortunate design of their strain reliefs.
The K3003 impressed me right out of the box with both their design and sound quality. The IE800 are more like a love/hate affair for me, with decidedly more love for their sound than their design.
I'll have some of my loaners back before next weekend and hopefully find the time to post A/B impressions to the K3003 and EX1000. No promises for a full review, I'm afraid, anytime soon.
Originally Posted by cooperpwc
I sure hope that Jaben in HK has these in stock. If so, I will hear them Monday.
Originally Posted by Mini0510
If you do, please share your impressions. Thanks
X2, looking forward to turn this into a discussion rather than a monologue.
Edited by james444 - 12/5/12 at 5:10am