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post #406 of 1835

It sounds that the straightforward sound of EX1000 by Sony is very similar to IE800.

Anyone guarantees? 

post #407 of 1835
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Originally Posted by Alias Gu View Post

It sounds that the straightforward sound of EX1000 by Sony is very similar to IE800.

Anyone guarantees? 


If it has treble spikes like the EX1000 has then it's garbage. I sure hope it don't sound the same...

post #408 of 1835
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


If it has treble spikes like the EX1000 has then it's garbage. I sure hope it don't sound the same...


I wouldn't call the Ex1000 garbage, but it certainly had a boost to the treble. I know James444 found it perfectly balanced, iirc, so different people have different takes on things, but the frequency charts did show a jump in the treble.

 

I'll be interested in how the IE800 measures as well as how people perceive it.

post #409 of 1835
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post


I wouldn't call the Ex1000 garbage, but it certainly had a boost to the treble. I know James444 found it perfectly balanced, iirc, so different people have different takes on things, but the frequency charts did show a jump in the treble.

 

I'll be interested in how the IE800 measures as well as how people perceive it.


If I didn't hear those treble spikes I'd have thought otherwise but they were clearly there, regardless of what tips I used. So my opinion still stands on it. ;). The MDR-7550s are the saving grace as it has none of the flaws the EX1000 has but manages to be up their with it in technical abilities. Lacking a little treble air, bass texture and a slightly smaller sound stage. The 7550s mid range is superior though IMO :). What's more funny is on the MDR-7550 I much prefer using V-moda bass tips than the stock tips for a more open and fuller sound (the hybrids constrict the sound stage, makes it very narrow). While on the EX1000 I needed to use the Stock tips to reduce treble spikes as much as possible.... Also the vocals could be a tad sibilant (trying not to get the two mixed up lmao) but in all honesty it wasn't that bad. Just a tad too dry. I'm much more tolerant of sibilance than treble spikes :P.

 

I really hope the IE800s are gonna set a new standard for high end dynamic IEMs. If so then I'll have to be selling gear to fund them...


Edited by lee730 - 11/12/12 at 10:22am
post #410 of 1835
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


If I didn't hear those treble spikes I'd have thought otherwise but they were clearly there, regardless of what tips I used. So my opinion still stands on it. ;). The MDR-7550s are the saving grace as it has none of the flaws the EX1000 has but manages to be up their with it in technical abilities. Lacking a little treble air, bass texture and a slightly smaller sound stage. The 7550s mid range is superior though IMO :). What's more funny is on the MDR-7550 I much prefer using V-moda bass tips than the stock tips for a more open and fuller sound (the hybrids constrict the sound stage, makes it very narrow). While on the EX1000 I needed to use the Stock tips to reduce treble spikes as much as possible.... Also the vocals could be a tad sibilant (trying not to get the two mixed up lmao) but in all honesty it wasn't that bad. Just a tad too dry. I'm much more tolerant of sibilance than treble spikes :P.

 

I really hope the IE800s are gonna set a new standard for high end dynamic IEMs. If so then I'll have to be selling gear to fund them...

I highly agree with you. Well but we can hardly find any any other IEMs to compete with EX1000's clear amazing treble and deep precise bass. They have to compromise and sacrifice some points, in this case Treble and Voice, to make balance.

Actually i prefer next generation of EX1000, let's call it EX2000, which i think they will fix the flaws.

IE800 is just a strategy to compete with other high end IEM, such as K3003. Next generation of IE series, let's call it IE10, is much more attractive to me.

post #411 of 1835

EX1000 are garbage? That's a new one blink.gif

post #412 of 1835
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Originally Posted by tumburu View Post

EX1000 are garbage? That's a new one blink.gif


Treble spikes galore. Nothing new there. Check the graphs, it's clearly there in the lower treble region. Just in this case my ears agree with that graph while others don't hear it, or more so it doesn't ruin the sound for them.


Edited by lee730 - 11/12/12 at 10:48am
post #413 of 1835

Any other recommendation for replacing EX1000?

I am thinking about it.

post #414 of 1835

You have K3003?

How about that? Better than ex1000?

post #415 of 1835
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


Treble spikes galore. Nothing new there. Check the graphs, it's clearly there in the lower treble region. Just in this case my ears agree with that graph while others don't hear it, or more so it doesn't ruin the sound for them.

 

Some seem to be immune to this and some very sensitive.. me belonging to the latter.

what a shame, i loved everything else about the ex

post #416 of 1835
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Originally Posted by Alias Gu View Post

You have K3003?

How about that? Better than ex1000?


I don't have the AKG3003. I had them for a bit over 2 weeks time. IMO they were clearly an upgrade over the EX1000. Even with the treble filter they weren't nearly as harsh lol. I would have bought them if not for my Tralucent 1Plus2s. But I can say if you really love treble the AKGs are hard to beat. A very neutral sound, wide sound stage. Keep in mind the newer revised 1Plus2s are a completely different beast. Take a look at the Tralucent Audio thread and maybe even keep it in mind. If indeed this IEM is more detailed than HD800 then you can bet your dollar the treble will be killer on it. The review units won't be going out til sometime this week or the beginning of next week. :)

post #417 of 1835
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Originally Posted by JohannLiebert View Post

 

Some seem to be immune to this and some very sensitive.. me belonging to the latter.

what a shame, i loved everything else about the ex


So did you hear them yet? Are the treble spikes an issue for you as well? If you really are having issues with them and love other aspects of the sound in general seriously get the MDR-7550s. I am so glad I did as I did very much miss the bass and overall wide and neutral sound signature of the EX1000. Just the treble killed it for me lol.

post #418 of 1835

Here we go again....

 

The EX1000's treble is fairly neutral but what's offensive is ONE spike in the 5.5k that can be very offensive, in the midhighs that makes it sounds sharp and sibilant at times. It's not as offensive at lower volumes though and besides the EX1000 doesn't isolate that well in the first place so it's used in these settings. EX1000 is a tad better than the 7550 IMO, a modded 7550 sounds quite different and nice though. Even with the spike the EX1000 is one of the best dynamic IEMs. 

post #419 of 1835
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

Here we go again....

 

The EX1000's treble is fairly neutral but what's offensive is ONE spike in the 5.5k that can be very offensive, in the midhighs that makes it sounds sharp and sibilant at times. It's not as offensive at lower volumes though and besides the EX1000 doesn't isolate that well in the first place so it's used in these settings. EX1000 is a tad better than the 7550 IMO, a modded 7550 sounds quite different and nice though. Even with the spike the EX1000 is one of the best dynamic IEMs. 


I agree if the treble spike is not an issue for you then of course it is one of the best IEMs available. But that is still an if as not everyone will agree with you on this. There are others other than myself who have had these issues and it is not necessarily because of fit issues. The 7550s already proved that in my case.

post #420 of 1835

I do think it's an issue, but not nearly as much as you make it out to be. 

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