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post #166 of 2096

I think reason 2 would be a very poor excuse. Cutting costs and charging more is horrible. TBH having a replaceable cable would save them more than not having one. Cables will break regardless and having to replace an entire $800 IEM is more costly than just shipping a replacement cable (although it doesn't costs nearly $800 to manufacture the item).
 


Edited by lee730 - 6/30/12 at 7:55am
post #167 of 2096
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

I think reason 2 would be a very poor excuse. Cutting costs and charging more is horrible. TBH having a replaceable cable would save them more than not having one. Cables will break regardless and having to replace an entire $800 IEM is more costly than just shipping a replacement cable (although it doesn't costs nearly $800 to manufacture the item).
 

 

I really don't understand why having a non-replaceable cable = failure. I had my GR07 a year without problems, and the current owner is enjoying them. James444 has had his fi-ba-ss, FX700 for long periods of time. Even the detachable cables on most iems have yet to fail, voiding their ability to be replaced. 

 

If you wanted to try aftermarket cables, then OK. But don't say it's because the product is so expensive. Again, I'll use the K3003 and FI-BA-SS examples.

post #168 of 2096

Personally I  think  the true failure  was the IE8. People paying big premium to get the detachable option (compared to IE7) , and now Sennheiser just provided proof that it's pointless. But sennheiser chose to discontinue  the IE7, and make lot of profits with the more expensive IE8 frown.gif.

Now it's hyper profits with the new IE800 (would they discontinue IE80  biggrin.gif ?).

post #169 of 2096
I most cases it costs as much to repair as to replace. A good example is with the Weston UM3x. To repair the cables is not much more than to replaced the Um3X RC cable to my understanding.
post #170 of 2096
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I most cases it costs as much to repair as to replace. A good example is with the Weston UM3x. To repair the cables is not much more than to replaced the Um3X RC cable to my understanding.


Yeah the more the product is expensive, the more the replacement parts are expensive.

It costs more than 200$ to get a replacement cable for the hd800 seriously.

Also detachable cable doesn't mean there won't be weakness elsewhere in the product.

I 'm thinking of my srh940, detachable cable, and cracks angry_face.gif.
 

post #171 of 2096
Exactly you could go through loads of rubbish replacable cables but the Ie800 one could last for ever.
post #172 of 2096
I think that some of you guys are missing the point that the pin and socket is an inherently cheap system that works okay so long as you keep the cable light. On this IEM it would be a lower quality solution most likely leading to higher failures.

If you don't like it, buy something else. But please spare us the dime store cynicism about Sennheiser being cheap and conniving with their flagship IEM. This is going to be a quality product. Let's hope that it has sound to match.
Edited by cooperpwc - 6/30/12 at 8:59pm
post #173 of 2096

For me, the announcement of this IEM is exciting. I have only owned one high-end IEM, the IE8, and I loved it. I compared my humble iPod and IE8 to sound systems at the Head-Fi meet costing thousands of more dollars and my system compared favorably. Unfortunately, I forgot my IE8 in a taxi cab and I have been headphone-less ever since. This new IE800 may just get me to open my wallet again. I've wanted to go the JH-Audio 16 route but I just can't see myself going through the effort to get customs. A brilliant universal sounds like a superb solution.

post #174 of 2096
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A brilliant universal sounds like a superb solution.

 

We can only speculate at this point, but if they come out first in Europe (like the IE8 and IE80), I'll most likely get my hands on an early pair to see how they stack up against other top-tiers. A lot has been happening since the arrival of the IE8 and the high-end IEM market is much more competitive nowadays.

post #175 of 2096
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We can only speculate at this point, but if they come out first in Europe (like the IE8 and IE80), I'll most likely get my hands on an early pair to see how they stack up against other top-tiers. A lot has been happening since the arrival of the IE8 and the high-end IEM market is much more competitive nowadays.

 

Finally the announcement we've been waiting for!

post #176 of 2096
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We can only speculate at this point, but if they come out first in Europe (like the IE8 and IE80), I'll most likely get my hands on an early pair to see how they stack up against other top-tiers. A lot has been happening since the arrival of the IE8 and the high-end IEM market is much more competitive nowadays.

 

St. James strikes again!

post #177 of 2096

The 800's seem very tempting. I was torn between going custom iem's (Merlin's) or going with HD700's. I wanted something high end that didn't require extra equipment to drive. Both have me scared at the moment with UM's quality control issues and the lackluster reviews on the HD700. This may be the ticket, hopefully Sennheiser got it right, I am anxious for some reviews. In the meantime I am loving my IE80's which incidentally have the cable swapped to an IE8i for iphone control. It is nice to at least have the option.


Edited by JTAbq - 7/6/12 at 6:22am
post #178 of 2096
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The 800's seem very tempting. I was torn between going custom iem's (Merlin's) or going with HD700's. I wanted something high end that didn't require extra equipment to drive. Both have me scared at the moment with UM's quality control issues and the lackluster reviews on the HD700. This may be the ticket, hopefully Sennheiser got it right, I am anxious for some reviews. In the meantime I am loving my IE80's which incidentally have the cable swapped to an IE8i for iphone control. It is nice to at least have the option.

 

I believe that you will have this option with the IE 800 too - at least eventually. The cable is in two parts with the connection where the Y-splitter  is normally found on other IEMs. It seems reasonable to assume that there is a reason for this.

 

2012_04_16_SennheiserIE800-3.jpg

post #179 of 2096
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I believe that you will have this option with the IE 800 too - at least eventually. The cable is in two parts with the connection where the Y-splitter  is normally found on other IEMs. It seems reasonable to assume that there is a reason for this.

 

2012_04_16_SennheiserIE800-3.jpg


I pray this is not another FX700 disaster. The cable is just too short and using the cable extension literally ruins the sound. rolleyes.gif Even using another extension cable I still notice the slight loss in audio quality which irks me.


Edited by lee730 - 7/7/12 at 6:01am
post #180 of 2096

I can't comment on the FX700 but it is all in the implementation. There is no inherent reason why this plug would degrade sound while the pin and socket system on IEMs with replaceable cables would not.

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