My adapter is a day or so away from arriving.
Will share pics when it come in of it in with with IE800 upper cable and Momentum lower cable.
And SQ is not ruined? Not changed? Not become worse in any sense?
Have you done a more in-depth assessment yet? Very interested in hearing the results.
Also have you compared them vs. other newer ones like the Cardas or the Westone UM Pro?
First, this is a 'cludgy' solution that end up with a heavier and longer 'solid' portion of the cable than many would want.
The sound quality is effected. In short, the treble is slightly reduced. This is noticeable on A/B ing but its so subtle that I'm not sure I could do a blind test on it.
The convenience is not great. The heavier connector (Momentum lower cord plus Nokia 2.5 to 3.5mm) is 9cm long. You get a clip with this but it is heavier and can 'disconnect' more from getting snagged etc.
I was happy to build a cheaper solution and the sound quality is comparable to the original cable. I'd rather have the ie8i with its low weight and convenient controls rather than my version of the iPhone capable ie800.
The RCA800 I'm sure will have a lightweight and convenient setup with no change of audio quality. Hopefully I'll get to try the official iPhone control soon.
NB, I often use the open ear B&O Earset 3i for phone calls on my iPhone. I found that using in ear IEMs tah add isolation causes a hesitation in my mind as I'm not getting any 'foldback' of my own voice. I wonder if Phones will soon have some foldback for phone use soon!
After about a month of use and at least 200 hrs of break in, the sound of the ie800 has changed a lot compared with the out-of-the box sound.
Treble was a bit sibilant intially, not now at all. Treble is now very smooth.
Midrange is glorious.
Bass is very, very good. Extremely deep, bit no mid bass exaggeration. Perfect, just as I like bass. Surprisingly, on some recordings, it does not sound very bassy at all, but sometimes the bass is massive. Clearly up to the recording, and the ie800 delivers only when it should.
I use a shirt clip, oval medium tips and very comfortable and secure fit. No tea bag crap. Fed directly from IP5s, which actually sounds better than IP5 in the treble.
Anyone who can compare the ie800 sound to the JH16pro Freqphase?
I tried the 16pro demo before. I think both are great IEM.
In terms of sound signature, i would say IE800 is a more balaned / natural IEM. It has some kind of enhanced bass but overall still could be regarded as natural to me. For the 16pro, its bass is enhanced too but I think its not as deep as IE800. I regards the IE800 presents intruments and classical music better than the 16pro.
It didn't take me long to find the lush bass enjoyable and get over the issues of cable design etc. It's mostly all about the sound. I'll be testing them for isolation on a flight tomorrow so will be 'offline' for a short while.
Hope you enjoy them as much as I do and look forward to your thoughts on them.
I received the IE800 earlier this week (came from Japan, S/N is in the 13k's, wow... 13xxx lol) and I've been burning it in since. At first I found the sound a bit too strong/heavy to the point where it was causing my eardrum to close up due to the intensity of the sound/sub-bass/etc. when listening to them. It seems to have stopped causing that problem now, although it might be due to having listened to the IE800 a bit too loud when I first got them (I guess since they don't distort at a loud volume, so I didn't notice how loud it was at first.)
I've burned them in for approx. 50-60 hours so far I'd say, just playing music at regular volumes.
The sound reminds me a lot of my Grado HP-2 (HP-1000) w/ flat pads due to the way the bass hits and the accentuated/smooth midrange + vocals. Soundstage is not the widest (the IE80 has a wider soundstage), but imaging and overall stage presence seems really on point with the IE800. The IE80's imaging sounds a bit exaggerated and stage presence a bit confusing, probably due to their veiled sound signature.
The fit was a bit weird at first, and I didn't like how the stock medium round pads created an intense suction when popping them in my ear. It made pulling out the IE800 really hard, so I use the M/L oval tips now which seems a little easier to pull out and without such a strong suction-type fit. Still getting adjusted to the fit tbh, but other than that I've been pretty impressed with them. Details and overall sound is really good.
I've been using them with a 75ohm impedance adapter (Etymotic ER-4P to S adapter), although I ordered 82ohm and 30ohm adapters from ebay that should be here in a couple weeks or so (82ohm to match the 18ohms of the IE800 to raise it to 100ohms total.) I've been using the impedance adapter b/c of hissing issues with the ALO Rx Mk3-B+... I hope it doesn't alter the FR or overall sound of the IE800 too much! Using them straight out of my Fostex HP-P1 (w/o impedance adapter) doesn't produce hiss and seems a little more "upfront" sounding than with the ALO amp, although it could be due to the different setup (DAC/amp, using the ALO with the CLAS -dB w/ balanced backend) instead.
IE800 seems to have a pretty flat phase response to impedance, so I'm hoping it shouldn't be an issue when using the impedance adapters... lol I did kind of decide on getting the IE800 due to this, since other TOTL universal IEMs like K3003, 1plus2, etc use hybrid dynamic/BA drivers which would probably sound more off when using added impedance to reduce hiss with the Rx Mk3-B+. Maybe if I save up for an SR-71B or Intruder (or some other amp to match balanced w/ the CLAS -dB) I could get either a K3003 or 1plus2 too eventually, lol. Expensive hobby :(
The background hiss with the ALO Rx Mk3-B+ on the IE800 isn't that bad (compared to the hiss on the IE80s with the amp), and is tolerable, but still annoying.
I just tried the IE800 w/o an impedance adapter today since I received the 30ohm/82ohm adapters from ebay in the mail... so far the 30ohm impedance adapter isn't my favorite; it sounds a bit off when using the added 30ohms on the Rx Mk3-B+, but the hiss is reduced. It makes the IE800 sound less airy and less fun sounding/dry (~48ohm total).
The 82ohm adapter sounds better with the IE800 so far (~100ohm total), although I've yet to A/B the 82ohm adapter beside the Etymotic P-to-S 75ohm one (~93ohm total).
I only use the adapters on the Rx Mk3-B+ amp due to it hissing with sensitive low impedance IEMs (which is surprisingly tolerable with the IE800, but would still prefer it w/o hissing.)
Btw does anyone know where I could find the newly released remote/mic enabled RCA800 cable (w/ shipping to the US)? It doesn't seem to be available yet in the states...
Also, I wonder if any of the popular cable manufacturers will eventually make upgrade cables for the IE800 (a cable starting from the 2.5mm 'extension' plug part) and if it would improve the sound at all, hm...
The best things in life are free.
Having waited almost a year to acquire a pair of the Sennheiser IE800, I finally have them in my grubby paws (and even grubbier ears :).
Unfortunately as time at the library is limited, not to mention the fact that it is really too early to provide a full impression of them, I cannot do so at this point but let me tell you all now for nothing that these are a massive step up from my once beloved IE8s ("alas poor Yorrick, I knew him well)". Bass is fantastic, mids are terrific, vocals are on a totally different level altogether and treble....... I'll get back to you on that one. :)
Full review to come soon.