Aside from the tuning choices, what exactly makes it crap... to your ears?
Texture wise, the PF is possibly the best I've heard. As strange as the FR is, it's still among the most capable dynamic drivers I've come across. Add in the metal housing, seal-less design, and you have an IEM that works wonders with certain music. Others genres are a different story.
I've yet to see any PF user/owner claim that they're the SR-009 killer. All have been upfront about the sound.
No subbass, no high treble, peaky. it just presents the midrange in a very forward and thick matter, that's it. Of course it's very textured that midbass is really embracing that midrange. If you think no subbass and high treble is capable, I don't know what to say....It does show a different side of things though, it's so different or bad in my book, that it's just a different feel from the norm.
FYI, James does not have the PF IX, only the PF VIII. You actually tried one Piano Forte and one 1601.
Indeed, AND speculation.
What do the Piano Fortes have to do with the K3003 & IE800? Or, are you invalidating my K3003 & IE800 views because you think the PFs are "crap" and I think they're not? I actually said I'd recommend the PF IX to "very few people" precisely because it's a very different sounding IEM and "an IEM I feel many would not appreciate". My ears are still able to hear the very marked sonic differences between the K3003, IE800 and PF IX.
Oh dear, no comment to that.
That's it from this end.
LOL, I should be more careful when replying with my iPhone.
Anyways, meant that it might be a IX, but you're right it's an VIII. It's speculation, but based on my experience, I got money in that there is very little difference between the two, anynoe is free to send me or Rin a pair.
Typo again. I do have my doubt and I think it has to do more with the IE800s midrange dip. K3003 is an AKG experiment, IE800 is more coherent, the treble leaves the K3003's in the dust when damped.