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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

 

Aside from the tuning choices, what exactly makes it crap... to your ears?

 

Texture wise, the PF is possibly the best I've heard. As strange as the FR is, it's still among the most capable dynamic drivers I've come across. Add in the metal housing, seal-less design, and you have an IEM that works wonders with certain music. Others genres are a different story.

 

I've yet to see any PF user/owner claim that they're the SR-009 killer. All have been upfront about the sound.

No subbass, no high treble, peaky. it just presents the midrange in a very forward and thick matter, that's it. Of course it's very textured that midbass is really embracing that midrange. If you think no subbass and high treble is capable, I don't know what to say....It does show a different side of things though, it's so different or bad in my book, that it's just a different feel from the norm. 

 

Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

 

FYI, James does not have the PF IX, only the PF VIII. You actually tried one Piano Forte and one 1601.

 

 

Indeed, AND speculation.

 

 

What do the Piano Fortes have to do with the K3003 & IE800? Or, are you invalidating my K3003 & IE800 views because you think the PFs are "crap" and I think they're not? I actually said I'd recommend the PF IX to "very few people" precisely because it's a very different sounding IEM and "an IEM I feel many would not appreciate". My ears are still able to hear the very marked sonic differences between the K3003, IE800 and PF IX.

 

 

Oh dear, no comment to that.

 

 

That's it from this end.

LOL, I should be more careful when replying with my iPhone. 

 

Anyways, meant that it might be a IX, but you're right it's an VIII. It's speculation, but based on my experience, I got money in that there is very little difference between the two, anynoe is free to send me or Rin a pair. 

 

Typo again. I do have my doubt and I think it has to do more with the IE800s midrange dip. K3003 is an AKG experiment, IE800 is more coherent, the treble leaves the K3003's in the dust when damped. 

post #1082 of 2259

I am delighted that Music is back. Welcome back truly. Things are spicier already.

 

Let's all keep our emotions in check and our arguments inside the boundaries. I prefer a long slow sizzle to a super nova and then darkness.  biggrin.gif

 

Back on topic, I love the IE800 truly. They blow me away on a daily basis. However, speaking of genres, they just do not do Paul's Boutique (Beastie Boys classic) as well as the ES5. Not only do I have to EQ down the bass a bit - one of the few albums I do that for - but it lacks subtlety. I guess I could say that Paul' Boutique has the IE800 sound already produced in. It requires a more neutral and nuanced IEM to sound its best.

post #1083 of 2259
So the ie800 should match ak100 well due to their lower end problem right?
post #1084 of 2259
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

@ mimouille

 

I understand you have 1 plus 2 and IE800, Does the 1 plus 2 has more bass than IE800? Care to compare a little. By the way, I enjoy your review on the 1 plus 2.


Ok, maybe IE800 fans will hate me for this, but TO MY EARS, the IE800 are a hit and miss. They COULD have sounded wonderful. Appart from the ultra boosted bass, they have among the best sound I have heard from any iem. But if I listen to them through a whole album, all I can think is bass bass bass bass bass. It takes the diversity out of music IMO.

 

So to answer you question, I cannot really compare them to any IEM. But as the 1plus2 is maybe my favorite all rounder iem, they kick the IE800's butt. The bass is punchy, detailed, textured, but very well controled and in no way overwhelming like for the IE800. The 1Plus2 also sound fuller and bigger, with larger can-like soundstage. The only thing where they are matched is clarity / transparency in the midrange, where IE800 excells (when the bass does not bleed over it at least). The only thing where the IE800 is better to me is the aesthetics / build / ergonomics.

 

But someone who likes the IE800 sig but want less bass, look at the Kaede. Someone who wants a better all rounder, get the 1Plus2.

 

That's just me, but bear in mind this is my taste. I prefer the Kaede over the 334 even, and many might think otherwise.

post #1085 of 2259

Excellent read and thanks for sharing your opinion. 

post #1086 of 2259
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


Ok, maybe IE800 fans will hate me for this, but TO MY EARS, the IE800 are a hit and miss. They COULD have sounded wonderful. Appart from the ultra boosted bass, they have among the best sound I have heard from any iem. But if I listen to them through a whole album, all I can think is bass bass bass bass bass. It takes the diversity out of music IMO.

 

I think most IE800 owners agree with you - it´s a highly interesting, yet a somewhat flawed and overpriced product. Oh well, I hope Sennheiser designs a neutral reference based on the IE800 someday. IE900 maybe...

 

By the way, could someone post a picture of Rin´s suggested IE800 modification? Does it really mean just putting a piece of cloth between the metal meshes? It would be very interesting to test.

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Thank you !
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

Excellent read and thanks for sharing your opinion. 
post #1088 of 2259
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Originally Posted by vrln View Post

 

I think most IE800 owners agree with you - it´s a highly interesting, yet a somewhat flawed and overpriced product.

You took a survey? Or do you assume that everyone agrees with you? I'm genuinely curious.

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Having a bad day? Most as in most on this forum posting in this thread. I think it´s pretty obvious from this thread that the vast majority feel it´s a somewhat flawed - then again not that many here have the IE800 so the sample is obviously limited. But yes, I could have clarified that statement a bit more.

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Originally Posted by vrln View Post

Having a bad day? Most as in most on this forum posting in this thread. I think it´s pretty obvious from this thread that the vast majority feel it´s a somewhat flawed - then again not that many here have the IE800 so the sample is obviously limited. But yes, I could have clarified that statement a bit more.

 

Not too bad - I have seen both better and worse.  :-)

 

Okay, so you are basing it on postings on this thread. I have read the thread from day one and I read the general assessment of sound quality differently. I would say that satisfaction is quite high.

 

As for pricing, if one is judging by baubles per dollar, then going with Heir Audio or UM makes more sense. However, quality of construction, precision engineering and hand assembly in Germany are also expensive. In terms of sound quality for the money in our diminishing marginal returns hobby, I think that the IE800, while not cheap, is reasonably priced.


Edited by cooperpwc - 4/3/13 at 3:01am
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With the discussion of how the IE800 is engineered for shallow insertion, I have switched from the M/L Oval tips to the Medium tips. I am still running over the ears and behind the head but these sit more shallow. The attenuation still seems to be good. It is too early to say on sound quality. I think that the soundstage may be a bit bigger.

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Out of curiosity, I am just wondering how changing to Medium from Medium/Large allows a shallower fit?

 

Personally I am using the Largest tip in the set and have a very shallow fit with perfect seal, cable down and think they sound extremely open and airy.  


Edited by spkrs01 - 4/3/13 at 3:21am
post #1093 of 2259
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

Out of curiosity, I am just wondering how changing to Medium from Medium/Large allows a shallower fit?

 

Personally I am using the Largest tip in the set and have a very shallow fit with perfect seal, cable down and think they sound extremely open and airy.  

 

The M/L Ovals and the Medium are actually about the same size but the M/L Ovals are more stream-lined in shape and slide right into my ears. The rounder Mediums do not.

 

I also expected to try the Large to get a shallow fit - and I may yet - but the Mediums seems to be sitting at a nice, really much shallower depth.


Edited by cooperpwc - 4/3/13 at 3:34am
post #1094 of 2259
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

 

The M/L Ovals and the Medium are actually about the same size but the M/L Ovals are more stream-lined in shape and slide right into my ears. The rounder Mediums do not.

 

I also expected to try the Large to get a shallow fit - and I may yet - but the Mediums seems to be sitting at a nice depth.

 

I never realised that the tips had differing shapes, my bad! 

 

Thanks for thatnormal_smile%20.gif

post #1095 of 2259

Annoyingly I had a bad cold the day I had a chance to listen to the IE800s. If I have another this time I go to Tokyo I shall be very annoyed... Anyway, what I wanted to comment on was IEM bass. I find most IEMs are tuned towards use with, say, an iPhone and when you plug them into even a Pico Slim the bass gets boosted too much. The few IEMs I've liked in some way almost all have this problem, even the 334s. 

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