Originally Posted by tomscy2000
Good points! I'd like to lend some more constructive criticism:
- Let's hear both of what's good and bad --- it's highly difficult for customs to sound purely bad!
- One critcism was that the 'C' version didn't have enough clarity --- fair enough --- but saying the 'B' version is too bassy is a little odd. Isn't that what it's supposed to be? I can understand people not wanting it as their preferred signature (I know I would never get the bassy version), because it's tuned to have a lot of bass, but they did stamp that 'B' on there! If the bass was muddy, bloated, or whatever, then there is an issue. A unilateral criticism of the level of bass is perhaps not sufficient to form a sound argument, so let's hear specific qualities of the sound!
- I know some people's primary language isn't English, so if anyone would like assistance expressing their thoughts in English, I'd be happy to help.
- For the owner of Lear to post snarky comments like that on their own forum is decidedly unprofessional, but hopefully we can continue high level discussions here on head-fi!
1) Agreed! I can find positive aspects even to the IEMs I hate.
2) Also agreed. There was a mention of Westone IEMs being similarly disappointing to him.... that bit of info could actually turn the criticism into something useful. If he would clarify and say it reminded him of a UM2 or W3 or whatever model, then people would be able to relate to that. Highs on some Westones have been a stumbling point to certain people so it wouldn't be an unreasonable statement.
3) That's nice of you. Could be helpful.
4) I don't know the exact quote, nor the context, so I won't comment on that. But we really shouldn't compare an open discussion forum like this one to a manufacturer's own website. By going there and using their forum, you are somewhat coming into "their house" and that generally requires a different approach. I don't see a lot of that sort of thing on the Emotiva forum, nor the Decware forum, to name a few examples But again, I don't know exactly what was said.
Originally Posted by Kuroda Tsubasa
Thank you for your review! I was pleased to dedicate some of my time for reading it.
Also huge thanks to you for other reviews especially about the Miracle. Your review have inspired me to put a trigger on the Miracle. I will get them from second hands, and then I will send them for getting them reshelled through UM.
Wow! This thread goes so fast! It looks like many people who have tried it don't really like it. I agree with the previous post. Despite the fact that everyone hears differently it will be nice if people will explain why they don't like it and focus on both good and bad sides rather on negative ones only.
Also, in my opinion, the owner shouldn't get angry because of users as it's only their personal opinions about company products. Moreover, isn't it better to try to listen to some constructive criticisms and improve products in a such way that there will be no negative impressions at all? (of course, there always will be a person who doesn't like it, but it still worth to do it. )
Thanks! I do enjoy writing these types of reviews and sharing my experiences. They won't match with every other experience but generally they come fairly close.
Originally Posted by jackjack2011
um...you got my word, thanks! for the B version I've tried, I think it is kinda muddy and "inelastic", thats why i said its way too bassy. iem like 11pro also stresses on its bass, but we dont find the same issue with it. If someone like headphones produced by beats, may be you could stick to the B version, they have similar expression at low f
I am tired of keeping myself away from the investigation of the owner. Im just looking for some higher level of discussion, thats why i choose to express my feelings here^^
Do you mind if I ask what source you used when you tried it? Because I had plenty of bad experiences with certain gear. And not necessarily cheap gear either. I just tried the Matrix Quattro DAC, which did a great job, but the matching Quattro amp sounds bad. The headphone out of the DAC unit has a .1 ohm output impedance, while the dedicated amp is 5 ohm. But if I didn't know better I would assume that the dedicated amp should be the better choice, and use it... leading to bad results.
I also just tried the Hisound RoCoo D and it sounded really bad as well. So proper matching is essential.
Originally Posted by tomscy2000
Well, honestly, I really am only inclined to try customs with special driver/damper/circuit setups anyways (that's their main advantage, unlimited possibilities), so I am still interested in how the five-driver sounds. Oh, and project86, it doesn't seem to be setup the same way as the ES5... the ES5 uses two separate TWFKs for the mids and highs, while the LCM-5 seems to use TWFK and another driver (DTEC, perhaps?) for the mids and highs. Lows should be the same, with a CI. It does give me pause that the LCM-5 is wired that way, though, as it means that the mids are probably on their own band pass circuit, which means it's a triple driver with an extra DTEC (or whatever it is) tuned only to have mids.
I just meant similar to the ES5 in terms of dual highs, dual mids, and a single low. In contrast to the usual "two of each" strategy that everyone uses.