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post #526 of 846
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Originally Posted by MaJoMax View Post

btw, how does the new upgrade cable sound like now?

The upgrade cable doesn't really have a sound, it just makes the sound more fuller and transparent to my ears anyway. For me, cables are always a worthy upgrade to high end hp's. But they only give very subtle improvements. Once you get to this level, any improvements are worthwhile imo, especially when they are less than a couple of hundred bucks ;)

 

Cheers

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LugBug1, not to derail the thread or anything, but on the cable side of things. The stock cable seems very thin stiff and brittle. To the point of if you bend it its going to break. Also any movement of the cord bumping something seems to be transmitted up the line and into the headphone. Is this just the nature of Silver cables in general or just the poor quality of a stock silver cable? 

 

My only previous experience is with a Copper Black Dragon I have on my HD650 so I am not sure if a new cable would help with this or if its just the nature of Silver cables in general. If its just the nature of the beast?

 

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LugBug1, not to derail the thread or anything, but on the cable side of things. The stock cable seems very thin stiff and brittle. To the point of if you bend it its going to break. Also any movement of the cord bumping something seems to be transmitted up the line and into the headphone. Is this just the nature of Silver cables in general or just the poor quality of a stock silver cable? 

 

My only previous experience is with a Copper Black Dragon I have on my HD650 so I am not sure if a new cable would help with this or if its just the nature of Silver cables in general. If its just the nature of the beast?

 

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Yeah I thought that too with the stock. My upgrade cable has no such problems, It's very flexible and you can move it around with no reaction to the headphones themselves. Had it for about 6 months now and I've had no problem with it at all, and I have a one year old child that keeps grabbing and playing with it! 

 

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post #529 of 846

Thanks, sounds like it will be a new cable next on the list then. 

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Just got my headband cushion pad delivered...it goes over the hifiman headband..and has clicks on top to fix it..be carefull not to use to much strenght on the clickons..as they tend to break..so be carefull to put it on..but no holes needed.and boy..how soft it feels now... biggrin.gif .and it was only 13 dollars i think..perfect investment for my headphones. Its from audioequip.com ..and they sell on ebay.

 



Thanks for the tip!

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Got Moon Audio Silver Dragons for my HE500s. One word: awesome. I didn't think the HE500s could be improved over the stock cable, but Drew (Moon Audio) recommended the Silver for them, and now

there is even more depth and a fuller texture in all images and and even more transparent bass. These could be my only phones and I'd be happy.

post #532 of 846

Hi, that's one awesome review! very helpful for me as I have now decided that the hifiman he500 is my headphone of choice, but I wanted to ask you if you've paired the he500 with the ef5 before? If so, would you say it has better synergy than the lyr?

post #533 of 846
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Got Moon Audio Silver Dragons for my HE500s. One word: awesome. I didn't think the HE500s could be improved over the stock cable, but Drew (Moon Audio) recommended the Silver for them, and now

there is even more depth and a fuller texture in all images and and even more transparent bass. These could be my only phones and I'd be happy.

Had a bad experience with Drew from Moon Audio, with my W3000-Anv, they were not really that helpfull and paid lots of money for a cable with a diffrent plug then the one i asked for, and  that was not worth it.

I will never buy from them again.

Now sold the W3000 and thinking of HE500.

Can anybody compare those two?

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Originally Posted by Dereen27 View Post

Hi, that's one awesome review! very helpful for me as I have now decided that the hifiman he500 is my headphone of choice, but I wanted to ask you if you've paired the he500 with the ef5 before? If so, would you say it has better synergy than the lyr?


If you are referring to the OP post that's a negative. BUT if some one has hopefully they will post here.

post #535 of 846
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Had a bad experience with Drew from Moon Audio, with my W3000-Anv, they were not really that helpfull and paid lots of money for a cable with a diffrent plug then the one i asked for, and  that was not worth it.

I will never buy from them again.

Now sold the W3000 and thinking of HE500.

Can anybody compare those two?

I have bought many, many cables and some phones from Moon Audio and the quality and Drew's customer service and his quick work has always been 100% great for me.

I have never seen anything negative about Drew. And he is on to something great sonically with his cables, so I keep coming back to Drew for more. His cables have improved the sound,

sometimes dramatically, on every phone I have used them on (those with detachable cables). To me, Drew is everything an audio dealer should be, and he is a true craftsman with his cables.

 

W3000 has great vocals, well integrated bass and highs, and fine imaging. The images are very rounded and everything is well shaped.

It's a more delicate sound, but very refined. The fit can be a little strange and they can feel loose, like they are just hanging on your head, and this can

be annoying.

HE500 is overall more satisfying. They are vibrant sound with superb deep textured bass, and they create a larger space that is very convincing. All tones are very natural. Highs are extended but they are not bright.

In fact, the highs are wonderful, liquid and shimmering but not piercing. The highs/upper mids are all there and go right to the top and are thrilling but never get abusive.

Mids/vocals are nice and natural and well detailed, just not quite as detailed as a Stax phone, and just a smidgen less detailed and rounded to me then the ATH W3000s,

but I only notice it in direct comparison. 

So I prefer the HE500s, as they remind me of speakers, great speakers, with layering and perspective. If I didn't know better, in a blind test not knowing prices, I feel the HE500s were on par with TH900s and Stax 009s,

they are that good. This was a surprise to me because I owned and sold HE6s feeling they were fatiguing using headphone amps (not speaker amps like you are supposed to, so this is unfair to the HE6s).

For the price, I say EVERYONE should get the HE500s. They could be my only phone easily, no kidding. And they go well with both tubes an solid state amps that I have tried.

The stock cable is fine, but like I said, the Moon Silver Dragon takes to another level, with the bass and overall naturalness even more enhanced in quality, and just awesome.

I really recommend you at least try a Silver from Moon on the HE500s for that extra goodness.


Edited by rgs9200m - 11/15/12 at 7:48am
post #536 of 846
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I feel the HE500s were on par with TH900s and Stax 009s,

 

 

 

 

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post #537 of 846

With the right amp, anything is possible. I've got a Pinnacle. Innerspace wrote in his Pinnacle review that he felt the Pinnacle/HD800 combo was better to him than R10s,

so that's a similar situation.

 

009s are great and revealing the master of detail but the HE500s have an overall totally non-fatiguing sound and paint a grand space and have natural liquid tonality and

are kind of a cross between stats and dynamics and who's to say what is better?

:))


Edited by rgs9200m - 11/15/12 at 4:46pm
post #538 of 846

You are absolutely correct about the HE-500s.  I just don't know that any amp would make them better than the 009 though.  Oh well..  

post #539 of 846
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You are absolutely correct about the HE-500s.  I just don't know that any amp would make them better than the 009 though.  Oh well..  

Love to hear the SR009's one day... Just to compare myself.

 

Looks like rgs9200m has found his near perfect headphone, and just goes to show again in this hobby that its not always about the most expensive being the best. It's finding your personal preference. I think I've found it with the LCD2.2... Well for now anyway.. 

 

The HE500's are very special though, and I'm looking forward to upgrading amps in the future if they scale this well!

post #540 of 846

I had the Anniversary 3000 AT and did not like it. I thought it was bright in the upper mids and bass was not that impressive. My HE-500 are much better. I also have the Ultrasone Sig. Pro. and I like them better than the HE-500, but I'm still not selling my HE-500's.

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