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post #481 of 846

While I do not own the 400s and while I do own the 500s and the 5LEs.  I find the 500s having pretty good instrument separation.  I also find the 500s a little sparkly or hot in the treble section compared to the 5LEs.  So, while I can't compare them to the 400s I would agree the 500s are liquidity and that's what most people I like about them.  This is IMO.

post #482 of 846
You think the 500 is hotter in the treble than the 5LE?

I owned them both side by side for almost a month and couldnt stand the 5LEs treble. Too hot and sibilant for me. I really wanted to like the 500, but im very in tune to midrange bloat and the 500s were just a bit too bloated for me. Otherwise, i thought they were very fine sounding.

Just goes to show everyone has sensitivity to different frequencies.
Edited by palmfish - 11/9/12 at 7:29am
post #483 of 846
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You think the 500 is hotter in the treble than the 5LE?
I owned them both side by side for almost a month and couldnt stand the 5LEs treble. Too hot and sibilant for me. I really wanted to like the 500, but im very in tune to midrange bloat and the 500s were just a bit too bloated for me. Otherwise, i thought they were very fine sounding.
Just goes to show everyone has sensitivity to different frequencies.

 

 

Not saying that you didn't have it, but the 5LEs need power, lot of it in relative terms.  When I put them on the right amps they really showed off their tonal balance.  I had them on a 4 channel fully balanced B22 set at 8X gain and a pair of 200wpc speaker amps.  They really improved with the added power.

post #484 of 846

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Not saying that you didn't have it, but the 5LEs need power, lot of it in relative terms.  When I put them on the right amps they really showed off their tonal balance.  I had them on a 4 channel fully balanced B22 set at 8X gain and a pair of 200wpc speaker amps.  They really improved with the added power.

 

Did you end up just keeping the HE-6's and getting rid of the rest?

 

In my paring down process, I ended up finally selling my HE-500's and keeping my 5LE's.  Liked them both a lot, but with HD650's also in the picture, I decided the HD650's and 5LE's covered my needs sufficiently and 500 was somewhat redundant (though admittedly better) than my HD650's.

post #485 of 846
Yeah, i tried all the HiFiMANs with speaker taps as well as headphone jacks
post #486 of 846
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Originally Posted by captouch View Post

 

Did you end up just keeping the HE-6's and getting rid of the rest?

 

In my paring down process, I ended up finally selling my HE-500's and keeping my 5LE's.  Liked them both a lot, but with HD650's also in the picture, I decided the HD650's and 5LE's covered my needs sufficiently and 500 was somewhat redundant (though admittedly better) than my HD650's.

 

 

No way man.  I still have all three.  Now thinking hard about the HE-400s.  I just don't need all the bass I'm hearing they have.

 

What did you like about the 5LEs that you didn't like about the 500s?

 

For me on most of my headphone amp the 500s are a better choice.  On my B22 and speaker amps the 5LEs are better.  I love amps.  So I have the new GS-X coming and trying to get a Dynahi built by someone.

post #487 of 846
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I don't know about the ALO National or Continental V2. But I've tried the HE500 out of a Leckerton UHA-6S and it will drive them effortlessly. IME the HE500 are not hard to drive. They are by far easier to drive than my now sold DT990 (250 ohms). In fact, I can satisfactorily drive them out of my Sansa Zip (volume setting at -20dB.)

 

Thanks!  I'm not sure how the outputs of the Leckerton and ALO amps compare, but from what you're saying the HE500s are pretty easy to drive.   My only remaining question is can a portable amp get as good sound quality as a solid stare or some sort of desk amp?

 

I just need to spend more time with the HE500s and the ALO Continental v2 that I have.

post #488 of 846

The only portable amp I have heard which approaches the sound quality of a good desktop amp is the ALO Rx MK3. The UHA-6S is pretty darn close, but still not as good. The Continental is a totally different sound altogether from either of those aforementioned amps. I depends on what you are looking for and what you mean by "good sound quality".

post #489 of 846

For some reason, the HE500s sound better using the low-impedance output jack on my amp. I guess they are considered low impedance phones, but I'm not sure.

post #490 of 846
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Originally Posted by kiwirugby View Post

 

Thanks!  I'm not sure how the outputs of the Leckerton and ALO amps compare, but from what you're saying the HE500s are pretty easy to drive.   My only remaining question is can a portable amp get as good sound quality as a solid stare or some sort of desk amp?

 

I just need to spend more time with the HE500s and the ALO Continental v2 that I have.

 

To my ears, the HE500 delivers more detail, resolution, and is far more enjoyable when powered by the Leckerton UHA-6S than when using my laptop and Sansa Zip. It is not a question of power, it's a question of performance. A good desk amp should be able to deliver better performance, as form factor is no longer a priority. Others might be able to chime in as my experience with non-portable amps is limited with this cans.

 

Furthermore, as far as the ALO Rx MK3, I have no experience with it, but it is one of my priorities to audition it.


Edited by ultrabike - 11/9/12 at 7:32pm
post #491 of 846

I'm strongly considering making the HE-500s my next purchase, what are some of the better sites to place an order?

 

I wanted to get them from HeadRoom, but they are currently out of stock with about a 1 week wait time.  Amazon has them in stock, but I'm not sure if they have a good return policy (in case I don't like the fit/sound), and I'm also unsure on the warranty if I go with amazon.

 

Also, the site needs to be North American.

 

Thanks.


Edited by Smoke Signals - 11/9/12 at 7:04pm
post #492 of 846
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I'm strongly considering making the HE-500s my next purchase, what are some of the better sites to place an order?

 

I wanted to get them from HeadRoom, but they are currently out of stock with about a 1 week wait time.  Amazon has them in stock, but I'm not sure if they have a good return policy (in case I don't like the fit/sound), and I'm also unsure on the warranty if I go with amazon.

 

Also, the site needs to be North American.

 

Thanks.

You should wait it out with HeadRoom. They allow you to return products with absolutely no fee. If you don't want to wait

contact Justin @HeadAmp.

post #493 of 846
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You should wait it out with HeadRoom. They allow you to return products with absolutely no fee. If you don't want to wait

contact Justin @HeadAmp.

FWIW, a co-worker of mine purchased his HD518s from HeadRoom and was very pleased with their service...

 

Here are a few other options:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_818HE500/HiFiMAN-HE-500.html?tp=48435&kw=&org=pla&nw=g&crv=14942354185 (60 day full refund, but may need to pay shipping fee)

http://head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=102 (not sure about their return policy but they are a subsidiary of HiFiMAN and seem well regarded)


Edited by ultrabike - 11/9/12 at 7:37pm
post #494 of 846

Both sound great, I'm ready to pull the trigger I think.  Can anyone vouch for one of the above sites?  I just want to know I can safely return them if there are problems, and that customer service is good overall.

 

Thanks for the fast replies, you all have been really helpful.

post #495 of 846

I have always had a good experiences with Crutchfield in the past. However I never had to deal with there customer service so I have no clue on that. 

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