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post #451 of 846
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Purrin has a Schiit Mjolnir, I don't think you need more power than that, unless you're claiming the HE-500 needs to be run out of speaker taps.  

 

 

ha ha ha..  There you go..  Raven.  They don't need to be run out of a speaker as we all know.  I don't own the 400s so I can't comment on the bass between the two.  However, I like the bass from the 5LE better than the 500.  I think it gets down just a tab bit lower and a tad bit tighter.  .


Edited by preproman - 11/6/12 at 9:23am
post #452 of 846

I also ran the HE400 and HE500 out of the Dynahi. The Dynahi has the most explosive and controlled bass performance of any headamp I've heard, with the Mjolnir coming in a close second. It doesn't really matter because both headphones were still pretty good out of modest amps such as the O2, and their fundamentals didn't change much out of good portables such as the UHA-6 (superior to the O2) either. Maybe there are amps which make the HE500 have limp-dick bass, but I haven't heard one yet.

 

I don't know if people actually read what I wrote in the context of "slam" factor: I think they are roughly equal. Maybe a slight nod to the HE400 because it is louder and more articulate. The HE500 is softer in comparison.

 

To clarify, by "softer", I meant the HE500's bass was rendered more softly, that is a little bit blurry, compared to that of the HE400, which I felt was super tight, articulate, and clean. (At least the two HE400s, both r2s, I have in my possession.) It's my understanding that the HE400s were (and could still be) all over the place in terms of sound. But this has not been my experience with the three pairs I've heard.

 

The HE400/5/5LE bass sounds cleaner to me with more authority down low compared to the HE500. The HE400 has more bass overall in respect the mids compared to HE500. The HE500 seems to have a little mid-bass emphasis.

 

I did find after the fact that the HE500 had more third order harmonic distortion from 20Hz to 80Hz than the HE400, even though THDs were similar.


Edited by purrin - 11/6/12 at 9:18am
post #453 of 846
At what kind of volumes do you normally listen Purrin?

My (limited) personal experience with planar headphones is that they need more volume to "come alive" than the dynamics Ive owned
post #454 of 846

That's never been the case for me with the HE-400.  In fact, some of my most pleasant and detailed-oriented experiences have been while listening at really low volumes.

 

 

This dynahi sounds interesting.  It's a diy amp?  How much does it usually cost.

post #455 of 846

Sometimes fairly loud, ~87db. Maybe 92db. I slowly warm up and crank to to this point - and then only in short bursts with amp rest period. (I can't work and listen to music at the same time. Listening to music is too distracting / involving for me.) Sometimes moderate, ~77db. I do listen to my 'stats louder than dynamics. Less non-linear distortion and smoother FR.


Edited by purrin - 11/6/12 at 12:29pm
post #456 of 846
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

That's never been the case for me with the HE-400.  In fact, some of my most pleasant and detailed-oriented experiences have been while listening at really low volumes.

 

 

This dynahi sounds interesting.  It's a diy amp?  How much does it usually cost.

 

Yes it's a DIY amp. The cost is fairly high considering the stuff Schitt puts out.  Also, getting someone willing to build it is a challenge as well.

post #457 of 846

Bumping my previous post about how the HE-500 may pair with the Millett Hybrid Mosfest Max and the GRUBDac or similar comparison. I left all of my soldering gear in the states and after reading some very compelling reviews, I am seriously considering buying a pair and was wondering if the source/amp I have will do them justice or if I should just stick with the modded T50RP I'm currently using with my setup.

post #458 of 846
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Welp now that my Main station is down I'm just using my RS-2 out of my laptop and my dt1350 out of it with no DAC. still love both.

post #459 of 846

Read this whole post and still not sure about he-400 vs he-500... 

 

I have a portable amp - ALO THE NATIONAL and i'm just not sure it will drive the he-500s...

 

If you cant drive them its not worth one extra cent...

post #460 of 846
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Originally Posted by joetjie2000 View Post

Read this whole post and still not sure about he-400 vs he-500... 

 

I have a portable amp - ALO THE NATIONAL and i'm just not sure it will drive the he-500s...

 

If you cant drive them its not worth one extra cent...

 

While I have only had my HE-500 for a couple days now, I did try it on my sons E17 and I cant say it was a pleasant experience. To me they seem to need better amping than a portable device can give them to make them shine. I am sure someone else with a lot more knowledge and experience will chime in, but in my limited experience with them I think they need better than a portable amp. 

post #461 of 846
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Originally Posted by Ac0u5t1cArMy View Post

Bumping my previous post about how the HE-500 may pair with the Millett Hybrid Mosfest Max and the GRUBDac or similar comparison. I left all of my soldering gear in the states and after reading some very compelling reviews, I am seriously considering buying a pair and was wondering if the source/amp I have will do them justice or if I should just stick with the modded T50RP I'm currently using with my setup.

 

Everything is relative and if you are happy with your T50RP out of your current setup, you should have no problems with the HE500. The HE500s are significantly easier to drive than the T50RP.

 

The HE500s are fine, actually rather good, from my Leckerton UHS-6. However, I do not like the HE500 directly from the laptop or Sony X outputs.

post #462 of 846

Thanks for the responses everyone. I am happy-ish with my Fostex's but after reading about the HE500s and having a natural tendency to like open phones I was aiming for some specific feedback to my actual setup. I know the T50RP and my other go-to phone, the SR-225i are both current hungry and with the majority of my stuff (soldering station and everything else necessary for DYI) in storage while I'm in Korea, I was really inquiring on if the Millett Max in conjunction with the GRUBDac would power these (HE500) phones to their potential. From what I've heard I think that I may start saving now... Screw the wallet, my ears and well being are much more important lol!

post #463 of 846
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Originally Posted by joetjie2000 View Post

Read this whole post and still not sure about he-400 vs he-500... 

 

I have a portable amp - ALO THE NATIONAL and i'm just not sure it will drive the he-500s...

 

If you cant drive them its not worth one extra cent...

I got the HE500 and was floored by them using a couple of amps (solid state and tubed), so I highly recommend these. I don't think you can go wrong. (I never heard the 400s though.)

post #464 of 846

I really like your review--very well written and comprehensive and professional (you deserve job writing audio reviews).

Your impressions match mine about 100% since I also have the HE500s and almost the same Grados (RS1s).

 

Quick question to HE500 fans like myself: what (if any) aftermarket cable have you tried and what are your sonic impressions of them? Thanks in advance.

I'm going to try Moon Silver Dragons.

 

I like the HE500s (so far) better than my HD800s or LCD3s.

 

And just my 2 cents, although just personal, I love the comfort of the HE500s in every way (I just use the leather pads originally installed; I haven't tried the velours).

The are not too heavy, clamping, hot, or anything; I feel them, but they feel good, like a nice serious headphone.

Sometimes if a headphone is too delicate-feeling, it annoys me.

On the other had, if a phone is too overwhelming, like Senn 600s/650s were too me, I can't stand it for long. Audezes are about my upper limit for grip and weight, but they are still OK.

The HE500s are just in the perfect range for me.


Edited by rgs9200m - 11/8/12 at 10:08am
post #465 of 846
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

I really like your review--very well written and comprehensive and professional (you deserve job writing audio reviews).

Your impressions match mine about 100% since I also have the HE500s and almost the same Grados (RS1s).

 

Quick question to HE500 fans like myself: what (if any) aftermarket cable have you tried and what are your sonic impressions of them? Thanks in advance.

I'm going to try Moon Silver Dragons.

 

I like the HE500s (so far) better than my HD800s or LCD3s.

 

And just my 2 cents, although just personal, I love the comfort of the HE500s in every way (I just use the leather pads originally installed; I haven't tried the velours).

The are not too heavy, clamping, hot, or anything; I feel them, but they feel good, like a nice serious headphone.

Sometimes if a headphone is too delicate-feeling, it annoys me.

On the other had, if a phone is too overwhelming, like Senn 600s/650s were too me, I can't stand it for long. Audezes are about my upper limit for grip and weight, but they are still OK.

The HE500s are just in the perfect range for me.

 

 

I much prefer all my HiFimans with the velour pads.   Give them a try.

 

Better than the HD800s  -  Hard to say.  I woulld have to give the nod to the HD800s

 

Better than the LCD3s  -  Your looking to start a fight I see.  I don't own the LCD3s so I can't comment.

 

Better than the HE-6 - No way Jose..


Edited by preproman - 11/8/12 at 11:04am
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