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post #376 of 846

Hi guys,

 

I know I've been asking a lot of questions lately lol, but to anyone who's heard both the HE-400 and the HE-500, which one is better for rock and metal?

post #377 of 846
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Originally Posted by daniel521 View Post

Hi guys,

 

I know I've been asking a lot of questions lately lol, but to anyone who's heard both the HE-400 and the HE-500, which one is better for rock and metal?

Neither is better for those genres; HE400 have more and better bass, but HE500 have a fuller more balanced mids response. That said both would perform admirably, it just depends on which attributes of the music you prioritize as more important.


Edited by jerg - 10/26/12 at 11:56am
post #378 of 846
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Neither is better for those genres; HE400 have more and better bass, but HE500 have a fuller more balanced mids response. That said both would perform admirably, it just depends on which attributes of the music you prioritize as more important.

I prioritize mids more. I will be using these for gaming as well, mostly casual solo gaming. Do you think there will be a big difference in bass impact? Bass is important to make gaming more immersive, since lots of bass will make things like explosions more impactful. Do you think the HE-400 easily wins for casual gaming, or do you think there is little difference between the two for explosion impact and other low frequencies?

post #379 of 846
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I prioritize mids more. I will be using these for gaming as well, mostly casual solo gaming. Do you think there will be a big difference in bass impact? Bass is important to make gaming more immersive, since lots of bass will make things like explosions more impactful. Do you think the HE-400 easily wins for casual gaming, or do you think there is little difference between the two for explosion impact and other low frequencies?

 

I'd probably say HE400s are overall better voiced for game immersion than HE500s, not just in the bass aspect. The laid-back mids help putting more air in the distinct locational sound cues you hear in games, rather than having everything forward and in-your-face. The bass is a bit (not much but noticeable) less "wooly" than HE500s so there'd be more satisfying explosion-related experiences, and there is a bigger upper treble emphasis with HE400s which means all the extreme upper high frequency info in games (subtle sounds of wind, grass, leaves, creaking, and other scruffing / rubbing noises in video game ambiance) is enhanced.

 

For musical enjoyment esp vocal/guitar-heavy ones e.g. rock, though, you'll want emotional engagement rather than ambient immersion, so in that respect HE500s would win hands down.

post #380 of 846
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

 

I'd probably say HE400s are overall better voiced for game immersion than HE500s, not just in the bass aspect. The laid-back mids help putting more air in the distinct locational sound cues you hear in games, rather than having everything forward and in-your-face. The bass is a bit (not much but noticeable) less "wooly" than HE500s so there'd be more satisfying explosion-related experiences, and there is a bigger upper treble emphasis with HE400s which means all the extreme upper high frequency info in games (subtle sounds of wind, grass, leaves, creaking, and other scruffing / rubbing noises in video game ambiance) is enhanced.

 

For musical enjoyment esp vocal/guitar-heavy ones e.g. rock, though, you'll want emotional engagement rather than ambient immersion, so in that respect HE500s would win hands down.

I would always choose a laid-back (preferably open) headphone for gaming, it's all about comfort. I just love the 400 for gaming.

post #381 of 846

Sorry for sounding a bit stupid but what is a shootout...?   confused.gif

 

 

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post #382 of 846

You are excused. 

post #383 of 846

I really don't know which one to pick... The HE-500 will be better for music, but the HE-400 is better for gaming, is cheaper, and is much easier to amp.

post #384 of 846

Sounds like the choice is made.  

 

*Better for gaming*  *Cheaper*  *Much easier to amp*

 

vs.

 

*Better for music*

post #385 of 846
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Sounds like the choice is made.  

 

*Better for gaming*  *Cheaper*  *Much easier to amp*

 

vs.

 

*Better for music*

Better for music always wins right?

post #386 of 846
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Better for music always wins right?

If a pair of headphones are better for ALL music genres then it would intrinsically be fantastic for gaming/films too, because high performance in all those genres implies that it excels in all aspects (timbre, balance, neutrality, smoothness, separation, dynamics, soundstage, imaging, etc etc list goes on).

 

In this case HE500s are better for some genres of music only.

post #387 of 846
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

If a pair of headphones are better for ALL music genres then it would intrinsically be fantastic for gaming/films too, because high performance in all those genres implies that it excels in all aspects (timbre, balance, neutrality, smoothness, separation, dynamics, soundstage, imaging, etc etc list goes on).

 

In this case HE500s are better for some genres of music only.

Admittedly I've only spent a few hours trying out the HE-400 but I didn't hear a single genre in which they were better than the HE-500s but that's just my opinion. 

They are both excellent headphones but I have a definite preference for the HE-500s as I found the 400s to be just a touch too bass emphasized at the expense of the overall balance of sound. IMO

post #388 of 846
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Originally Posted by detoxguy View Post

Admittedly I've only spent a few hours trying out the HE-400 but I didn't hear a single genre in which they were better than the HE-500s but that's just my opinion. 

They are both excellent headphones but I have a definite preference for the HE-500s as I found the 400s to be just a touch too bass emphasized at the expense of the overall balance of sound. IMO

 

 

Very understandable 

post #389 of 846

HE-400 are less heavy, which is also something to consider when listening to it in seated position for extended time.

post #390 of 846

I'm going to have to go against the advice of others here and say the HE-500 is fantastic for gaming and I think you'd do just fine with them. I do mostly first person shooters, and not just the classic ones like Call of Duty. Left 4 Dead 2 has a really good sound engine behind it and a good set of stereo headphones will tell you exactly where the attack is coming from. I have been accused of hacking on more than one occasion while gaming with these bad boys. I've noticed the same in Battlefield 3 and most lately in Borderlands 2.

 

The HE-400 might possibly be better, but I don't see how. The only headphones I might say were better were the Heir Audio 4.A's but I doubt it.

 

At the end of the day, buy whatever headphone you want. If it's a good headphone with a good soundstage it will probably rock for gaming. Good headphones tend to be good for a lot of things, in my experience.

 
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