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post #106 of 846
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Originally Posted by mac336 View Post

my lyr came in earlier today.  I dont want to say anything premature, but so far I'm finding very little improvement between my NFB-12 and lyr with the HE-500.

 

Would like to hear more impressions as Mine are going from the LittleDotMKII that supplys roughtly 100mw at 32 ohms where as the NFB-12 is about 2 watt's at 32 ohms correct?

post #107 of 846

i believe so.  Idk if thats the exact # but I know NFB12 puts out alot of power.  I'm using valvo (red label) tubes which many say are some of the best pairing tubes with the he500. 

 

Im using the nfb12 dac for the lyr, maybe when my bifrost comes in it will improve.

 

 


 

post #108 of 846
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i believe so.  Idk if thats the exact # but I know NFB12 puts out alot of power.  I'm using valvo (red label) tubes which many say are some of the best pairing tubes with the he500. 

 

Im using the nfb12 dac for the lyr, maybe when my bifrost comes in it will improve.

 

 


 

 

Lol maybe, All I know if the Bifrost was a pretty big improvement over my Sound card heh.

 

I hope to have a FULL AND NOT JUMBLED review by mid or the end of next week.


Edited by WhiteCrow - 4/20/12 at 3:35pm
post #109 of 846

Also, have you tried changing between different gains on the MKII for the HE-500, Whitecrow?  I'm switching between gain 3 and 10 on my MKII for the HE-400 trying to see if there's any differences.  So far not finding much.


Edited by TMRaven - 4/20/12 at 6:43pm
post #110 of 846
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Also, have you tried changing between different gains on the MKII for the HE-500, Whitecrow?  I'm switching between gain 3 and 10 on my MKII for the HE-400 trying to see if there's any differences.  So far not finding much.


No I have not, been working a lot and doing this review before sleepy time heh. i have  a day off tomorrow and might try that.

post #111 of 846

I've done alot more listening and I am finding the lyr very enjoyable.  Both the NFB-12 and lyr drive the he-500 with ease, the main difference between the typical differences between SS and tube amps.  I find the lyr to be a tad smoother/warmer, natural, more enjoyable sounding.  The NFB12 is slightly analytical sounding sounding by comparison--not that I found it analytical at all to begin with.  The NFB is very good, but I'm really liking the tube sound of the lyr.

 

I found this improvement after leaving it on for an hour with the valvo tubes but if I'm gonna have to leave it on for an hour to get this sound everytime, then this is going to have a problem.....

post #112 of 846
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I've done alot more listening and I am finding the lyr very enjoyable.  Both the NFB-12 and lyr drive the he-500 with ease, the main difference between the typical differences between SS and tube amps.  I find the lyr to be a tad smoother/warmer, natural, more enjoyable sounding.  The NFB12 is slightly analytical sounding sounding by comparison--not that I found it analytical at all to begin with.  The NFB is very good, but I'm really liking the tube sound of the lyr.

 

I found this improvement after leaving it on for an hour with the valvo tubes but if I'm gonna have to leave it on for an hour to get this sound everytime, then this is going to have a problem.....

 


You shouldn't. The Lyr does have a heat up time, a 20 second silence, and I find that like most tube amps SOME burn in is required, Leave the Lyr on playing music for a few hours*about 12 is what I did* like I did and I find the sound has "set it's self" I think it's just a tube thing. But I agree about the natural thing, and the vocals are just beautiful. OH and if your using the Lyr for an extended amount of time*not suggested by any headphone manufacture* it may kill sound to protect it's self from over heating.

post #113 of 846

I was curious to know what your noise floor is with your tubes.  with your lyr/bifrost how far up the dial can yous go before the tube noise become audible/bothersome during music play?

 

My valvo tubes get noisy around 11 o'clock, so I keep the lyr around 9-10 and use volume knob on NFB to do most of the volume controlling. 

 

My GE tubes get noisy around 12-1.

 

also, I was wondering with your lyr/bifrost coming straight off the computer, about where do you keep the volume knob on the lyr for normal listening levels? 


 

post #114 of 846
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I have actually tested this. I paused the music and cranked it....nothing. I don't want to turn it up too loud as well....hurt. Okay this might seem like a VERY stupid question but does these have to be music playing to have floor noise? as I notice it at about 1-2 o'clock but I'm not sure if that's just noise in the music. ALSO, sans dac just playing through my sound card I get pretty substantial background noise with no music playing at about 10 o'clock.

 

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Okay I'm like %90 sure what I was hearing in the track I tested was Noise in the recording as "Lights in the sky by NIN" I have a 3 o'clock for a little bit and cat hear any background noise, like at all. And then turned it down as it hurt and I don't want to go def.


Edited by WhiteCrow - 4/21/12 at 12:19am
post #115 of 846

if I have no music playing, I hear static tube noise at 12'oclock with the valvo.   Idk if this is because the tube is old, its a bad tube, or if this is just normal

 

 

I never listen to music past normal listening levels and you shouldn't either--not even for comparison purposes.  If you cant hear noise at normal levels, then it wont affect you so it doesnt matter.  The noise level will be the same with or without music playing, so if noise comes in at 12 o'clock with no music playing, it also comes in at 12'oclock with music playing. 

 

What tubes are you using?>


Edited by mac336 - 4/21/12 at 12:26am
post #116 of 846
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if I have no music playing, I hear static tube noise at 12'oclock with the valvo.   Idk if this is because the tube is old, its a bad tube, or if this is just normal

 

Oh heh yea, I'm not getting any noise. Like not exaggeration. None, I thought it was a bit odd but I attributed it to the DAC not thinking about tube noise. How old are the tubes? I noticed some tube noise on my MKII and it turned out to be oxidization on the prongs. If you look at them and they are dull green or crusty looking take an Emory board to them and gently rub it away.

post #117 of 846

Just sold my HE-500's to go back to RS-2.. ahh I miss this.

 

I have an LCD-2 on the way. I wish I had enough money to own all 3 to compare.

post #118 of 846

Why did you sell 'em? smile.gif.   Heard the LCD's yet?

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Why did you sell 'em? smile.gif.   Heard the LCD's yet?

 

As Chris stated in his sale ad, the salary from building cables and his lifestyle don't support both the HE-500s and the other Schiit that he used to power them.  wink.gif

post #120 of 846

 

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As Chris stated in his sale ad, the salary from building cables and his lifestyle don't support both the HE-500s and the other Schiit that he used to power them.  wink.gif

 

Well, that would make sense were it not for the fact that he now seems to be buying LCD2's.  Unless he's borrowing them that is.  

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