Searching for an MP3/MP4 64Go player better than Sony NWZ-A867 - Page 2

Haha, comparison made by people who only look for bass, very objective ;)

Well, at least he wasn't comparing them using cheap earbuds.

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Originally Posted by arn 
With the Ultrasone Pro 900, the amount of bass from the A867 doesn't become much of an issue on most albums and the sound is usually pretty great in every respect with both A867 and Cowon J3. Actually with tracks without a strong bassline the midrange may sound at times a tad better through the Sony A867. Of course, I never listen to the Pro 900's on the move, so that's one reason the amount of bass doesn't become an issue. 

 

Can the Sony drive the Pro 900s??!

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Originally Posted by Szadzik 

Haha, comparison made by people who only look for bass, very objective ;)

Haha, obviously you didn't even read the posts before commenting! ;)

The whole point of the thread is the bass output of A86x / A829 / Cowon J3 players. I'm trying to contribute something more than just a few blunt words like "it sucks". Though I did make some short comments about the rest of the frequency range too.  I see that you use the A867 and chose it over the J3... 

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Originally Posted by Dreamnine 

Well, at least he wasn't comparing them using cheap earbuds.

Yeah, anyone who listens to music with cheap earbuds will definitely be incapable of any serious insight and his posts should be considered untrustworthy. Guys who own the most expensive equipment are the only ones to trust - they must be the most objective and insightful, not to mention probably having the best hearing too. 

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Originally Posted by devgru 

Can the Sony drive the Pro 900s??!

Yes. The 40 ohm Pro 900's sound fantastic with the Sony. Depending on your hearing, the Sony should be enough  - I dial about 20/30 volume, more would be beyond my comfort zone on most recordings. People with poor hearing may need an amp. Also, I'm sure that many may find improvement to the sound through an amp, but to my ears it beats any IEM that I have, unamped.

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Originally Posted by arn 

Yes. The 40 ohm Pro 900's sound fantastic with the Sony. Depending on your hearing, the Sony should be enough  - I dial about 20/30 volume, more would be beyond my comfort zone on most recordings. People with poor hearing may need an amp. Also, I'm sure that many may find improvement to the sound through an amp, but to my ears it beats any IEM that I have, unamped.

Wow, fantastic. I'd like to use my 900s while traveling but they were definitely underpowered by the iphone or my RME Babyface. I'd love to demo this player.

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Originally Posted by arn 

Haha, obviously you didn't even read the posts before commenting! ;)

The whole point of the thread is the bass output of A86x / A829 / Cowon J3 players. 

A867's bass output is perfectly fine. I have Senn MX980s and Westone 4Rs and both sound great with as much bass as the phones are able to output.

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Originally Posted by Szadzik 

A867's bass output is perfectly fine. I have Senn MX980s and Westone 4Rs and both sound great with as much bass as the phones are able to output.

Perhaps with your headphones the A867 is fine for your ears and your taste in reproduction of the frequency range. You didn't mention if you were using the euro or the US version of the player. If your player is the US version, then the difference in the sound may explain the difference. That, or for some reason you're just trying to validate your player choice with your comments (it really shouldn't matter to you if someone else needs more bass than you do). Neither however changes the following facts mentioned in the previous discussion: 

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Originally Posted by arn 

Perhaps with your headphones the A867 is fine for your ears and your taste in reproduction of the frequency range. You didn't mention if you were using the euro or the US version of the player. If your player is the US version, then the difference in the sound may explain the difference. That, or for some reason you're just trying to validate your player choice with your comments (it really shouldn't matter to you if someone else needs more bass than you do). Neither however changes the following facts mentioned in the previous discussion: 

 

1) compared to A829, the bass output of the A867 is much weaker

2) the Shure SE530 sound like crap with the A867 (nonexistent bass)

3) for people wanting solid bass reproduction, the A867 is not enough with many headphones (SE530, Klipsch X10, Yamaha EPH-100)

 

I'm listening to the A867 and A829 through the Klipsch X10i right now and I see that I may have been even overly positive in my analysis about the X10+A867 combination, because I just can't get the amount of bass that I need from a track which is pretty bass heavy (mids and highs are fine of course). The sound of the A829 with Clearbass +1 approximately matches the sound (and bass output) of the A867 with Clearbass +3. The A829 can produce some truly robust, deep bass through the X10i, which the A867 simply can not do. (Listening to Hidden orchestra: Night walks)

EU version. Stop creating urban legends about volume and bass of the EU version.

There is only one conclusion so far - A867 is not for bassheads, it is a neutral player. If you are looking for something that only outputs bass and nothing else matters, look elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Szadzik 

 

EU version. Stop creating urban legends about volume and bass of the EU version.

 

 

There is only one conclusion so far - A867 is not for bassheads, it is a neutral player. If you are looking for something that only outputs bass and nothing else matters, look elsewhere.

Oh, right. Naturally it is you who should be allowed to come to the thread to force feed your opinions, when the topic was clearly established in the first post. Feeling insecure about your equipment choices much...? Please just grow up and stop.

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Originally Posted by 3rik 

My first player was a Sony NWZ-A829. Sounded great with a lot of bass/sub bass. But only 16Gio.

So I've baught a Sony NWZ-A867, 64Gio. All my music is on it, but it lacks bass/sub bass. I've baught Sennheiser IE80 but no way.

 

Could you advise me for a 64Gio MP3/MP4 player with huge bass/sub bass, as aesy to use as my Sony, tactile, and with a great battery life (my old NWZ-A829 could play more than 20 hours).

 

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Originally Posted by nywytboy68 

My EU version of the A867 has tons of bass, and it's comparable to my S639 in this respect. It is slightly lower in volume though, but it drives all my headphones quite nicely. 40ohm Pro 900's will sound fantastic with it.

With the Pro 900's the Sony A867 definitely sounds very good and the volume cap has not been a problem for me with any of my headphones - I don't get anywhere near the maximum volume in my everyday listening.