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I only hate the sound when the ipod eq is off. I think its the greatest sounding when i turn on the ipod bass boost setting, the clarity is unbeatable especially when playing all my 128kbps files that i have converted to ALAC. Great stuff!


Dude...you know that converting 128kbps files to ALAC does not make the files lossless, dont you?  Lossy -> Lossless Codec -> Still Lossy.

The encoder cannot fill in magic for the signal already lost when the music was encoded to 128kbps.


He's pulling your leg (must be) .....

 

For one the iPod built in EQ is atrocious on all of the models I've heard - it seems to be the main reason most people I know leave it turned off.  I always leave mine flat and use the add on apps (Equalizer or Equ) if I need to adjust anything  Then there's the comment regarding converting 128 mp3 to ALAC. That brought a smile to my face.  He was just missing the appropriate smiley wink.gif

 

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I chose to ignore that, but whatever. Horses for courses.

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He's pulling your leg (must be) .....

For one the iPod built in EQ is atrocious on all of the models I've heard - it seems to be the main reason most people I know leave it turned off.  I always leave mine flat and use the add on apps (Equalizer or Equ) if I need to adjust anything  Then there's the comment regarding converting 128 mp3 to ALAC. That brought a smile to my face.  He was just missing the appropria;)

You from "the land of the long white cloud" are correct, was just having some fun and forgot the appropriate smiley, sorry.
post #20 of 28
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Ah, I understand why you like the Sony sound now. It's thick and fun. I understand fully why a person could think the iPod 'boring'. It is indeed the sound as recorded and that's it. The new EQ system is pretty good (I use electronic or classical for fun treble and bass). In which case, I really really recommend the Digizoid z02. I'm actually prepping final stages of review of it... and LOVE how it drives hard to drive earphones perfectly and then, when you want it, delivers hammering, beautiful bass. 
 

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I only hate the sound when the ipod eq is off. I think its the greatest sounding when i turn on the ipod bass boost setting, the clarity is unbeatable especially when playing all my 128kbps files that i have converted to ALAC. Great stuff!
 

 



 



Oh man, this place is awesome. I love Head-Fi.

To Shigzeo: Thanks a lot for dropping the Digizoid z02 name. It's only, like, $40 more than the E11 and sounds like I'll be able to use it for future, more expensive and needier headphones.

Thanks!
post #21 of 28

the zo2 can power hard to drive headphones better than the e11? i doubt it, I mean look at that thing its ubberly small. If you really wanna future proof yourself get something like a ibasso d-zero, dac+amp combo... but imho, future proofing doesnt really make much sense, just wait 'till you really need it before buying it, "its better to regret not buying than regret buying" i always say... Although if you're not satisfied with your player's eq abilities and need an amp the zo2 fits in that regard... And yes this place is awesome biggrin.gif, cheers


Edited by mrcuccuou - 4/11/12 at 8:03pm
post #22 of 28

^ x2

Err, really not sure that Zo2 is necessarily "better" or more powerful than E11. Based on what I've read it's just a different, coloured kind of amp.

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^ x2

Err, really not sure that Zo2 is necessarily "better" or more powerful than E11. Based on what I've read it's just a different, coloured kind of amp.


 

yeah,,,, "I rather listen to my music than my amp" (i got that from someone wink_face.gif)

post #24 of 28
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Well goshdangit guy, help me out here.

 

I've broadened my choices to three:

 

Fiio E11, DigiZoid Z02, and PA2V2.

 

I suppose whichever I choose will mostly be for my HD598's.

 

WHAT DO.

post #25 of 28

I'd just go with Shigzeo's recommendation if I were you. He knows his stuff; he's been reviewing a lot of gear for quite some time.

post #26 of 28
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I'd just go with Shigzeo's recommendation if I were you. He knows his stuff; he's been reviewing a lot of gear for quite some time.


This !

 

Plus - my own personal view on the E11 ..... although it seems to have everyone recommending it now .......

After 12 months, the jack on mine is quite loose - no disconnections - but easy for the headphone plug to be removed if you're not careful.  Also I get very annoying bursts of static every so often.  There are others who've mentioned same.  I documented it in my E7 vs E11 review some time ago, and kept it updated.  At the bottom of the review I noted:

 

 

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EDIT - UPDATE 1st March 2012
I've had the E11 over a year now - and I still use it when the mood takes me - I still like it's warmth, and occasionally use it's bass boost feature. My cans have changed quite a bit - I now have HD600, MS1i, and HM5 and for IEMs use Brainwavz B2 and (recently) Shure SE535 (Spec Ed).
 
What I need to comment on and make plain in this thread is a couple of issues I have noticed over time with the E11.
 
[1] Jack quality. While the input jack is still nice and tight, the output is actually quite loose. I'm not having any issues with connection drop-outs or anything - just thought it should be noted. If internal access to the jacks was relatively easy, I'd simply bend the metal connectors a little to tighten it. Unfortunately, I can't see a way to access them - so for now I'm just relatively careful how I handle it.
[2] Some weird noise / static from time to time. The E11 is not good in this area. I've noticed over time that I tend to get odd bursts of static when using the E11 with both iPod and iPhone (both via LOD). At first I thought it was my LOD - so I replaced that, but to no avail. Then I read about others who have had the same problem. Next, I started using the iPod in 'flight mode' - so all wireless signals are turned off. That seemed to work so far. Personally I have no problems with this - I pair the iPod with the E11 most of the time - and I don't need wireless (it's purely there for the music). For my iPhone, I usually operate ultra-portable (no amp) so no issues. But if you do have an iP4 and wireless connectivity is a must - be aware that you may have issues with EMF/electrical interference on the E11. I'm not the only one who has reported it - so just something to be aware of.
**UPDATE** - on Voldemort's blog he tested the E11 and found "Significant RF leakage from DC-DC converter into output" - this may be the cause of the static bursts after all. Anyway - next trip overseas, I'm going to see what else is around. Most of the time it doesn't bother me - but sometimes (particularly with IEMs) it gets annoying.

 

 

**UPDATE 19 March** - static either worsening, or maybe I'm just noticing it more. In any event - I can no longer recommend the E11. Static / noise now very annoying. I've stopped using it. Shopping for something else now ..... **

 

 
If Shig is saying the Zo2 - that's what I'd be leaning toward.

 

post #27 of 28
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Well goshdangit guy, help me out here.

 

I've broadened my choices to three:

 

Fiio E11, DigiZoid Z02, and PA2V2.

 

I suppose whichever I choose will mostly be for my HD598's.

 

WHAT DO.


...well i taught you're not going to get an amp anymore... if you're just really itching to spend to get an amp, i advise you stop (as the thread title says)... or if its all hypothetical and/or you're just planning what to pair with your HD598's then why are you choosing a portable amp? are you going to use the 598's on-the-go like?

 

imho, i think amps are more of a gear requirement than a music enhancement...

 

im not sure if this is the place to say this but, (Click to show)

 

 

but, personally me living in a third world country, i dont know, sometimes you just have to look things in diff perspective, do we really nid to spend a lot for another pair. i mean when is enough, enough, sure head-fi is a great site but sometimes it can be ubberly overwhelming, at the end of the day isnt just enjoying music what head-fi is all about? i dont know, its just something my girlfriend said that really got me thinking.... yeah...

 


Edited by mrcuccuou - 4/12/12 at 12:10am
post #28 of 28
Thread Starter 
No, you're right; don't be sorry. I came here asking for some advice and some very knowledgable members gave me some helpful and interesting answers.

I'm not all about 'spend spend spend,' I just wanted to experience an amp, as I have never bought/used one before.

I think I've made my mind up, and thank you guys for helping. We can either continue talking about amps, derail this thread like a bat out of he!!, or just let it die.
Edited by Leon Dota - 4/12/12 at 12:27am
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