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post #9916 of 18067

Has anyone heard both the Sennheiser HD 700/800 and the HE-400 in a comparison? The newest Senn's driver technology is interesting. I don't have $1,000 or more for headphones, but I am curious about which are 'better'.

post #9917 of 18067

Yes I did, out of the three I like HD700 the best. HE400 have recessed mid for my taste, HD800 is too hot (maybe it's due to my dac/amp but I don't want have $2K dac amp setup to match it) and HD700 sounds just perfect for my taste.

 

Senn's phone are also more comfortable to wear.

post #9918 of 18067

HD700 doesn't employ the same tech as the HD800, which isn't new tech anyways.  I've only had a brief time with the HD700.  In short, it's like the anti-HE-400.  Whereas HE-400 is most withdrawn in the 5khz area, HD700 has the biggest peak imaginable in the 5khz area.  It makes it waaaay too aggressive for my tastes, and really sibilant as well.  The earpads are also pleather/leather? and not as big as the HD800.  I prefer the HD800's comfort to HD700.


Edited by TMRaven - 4/21/13 at 9:03am
post #9919 of 18067
After what I've read of the HD700 and so many negative reviews on it, that's one headphone I know I will never try.

There just shouldn't be an emphasis in the upper midrange. It's positively grating .

The Koss ESP950 is in that price range, and there are people who prefer that over even the HD800 and HE500/HE6.

Im about to get them on loan, and from what I've been reading, they seem to be the it cans for that price range, even coming with it's own amp.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/21/13 at 1:17pm
post #9920 of 18067

It looks like garbage.  Its FR is incredibly balanced from IF's graphs though.

post #9921 of 18067
Looks? I don't argue that. They aren't pretty. But sounds?

I haven't heard of one person be anything but impressed by them. The SR407 also looks and feels like crap, but that sound I assure you is basically on par with high tier dynamics. Helps with the knowledge of knowing that it sounds the same (same drivers) as the SR507 which costs $1000 itself.

Koss has a no questions asked lifetime warranty, so that's another thing to feel good about the ESP 950.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/21/13 at 1:49pm
post #9922 of 18067

They looks pretty damn awesome to me. Apart from the peaky treble, what's so bad about them? 

post #9923 of 18067

I didn't say it's garbage.  I said it looks like garbage.

post #9924 of 18067

The ESP950s have a very understated, chiseled look; I quite like it.

post #9925 of 18067
It certainly looks better than the Stax Lambda rectangles of ugliness
post #9926 of 18067

And they definitely do have a classic studio can look, with huuge earpads.  Wonder why the bass rolls off so much even when they have 7 inch drivers.  

 

How much do they weigh?  If they were rather light, I feel as though I'd put them off too easily as too plasticy.

 

When they go on sale for around 700 though, that's like the best deal ever.

post #9927 of 18067
Only on headfi is a $700 headphone is "the best deal ever"... tongue.gif
post #9928 of 18067
Considering you get basically a distortion free, clear as a bell electrostat with it's own amplifier... $700 is quite a deal. I'm willing to bet the closest 'stat alternative would be the SR-407 with SRM-252S that I'm currently demoing, and that combo is near if not at $1000.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/21/13 at 9:03pm
post #9929 of 18067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Considering you get basically a distortion free, clear as a bell electrostat with it's own amplifier... $700 is quite a deal. I'm willing to bet the closest 'stat alternative would be the SR-407 with SRM-252S that I'm currently demoing, and that combo is near if not at $1000.
I know, if I had the money I might pick one up, I was just saying how most people spend an upwards of one thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine pennies on their headphones... wink.gif
post #9930 of 18067

I'm starting to appreciate its look more and more, plus I found out that it weighs 352g, making it around the same weight as the HD800.  That's a nice weight in my book, not something light and and fragile feeling like the HD600/650.

 

Plus look at this FR against the Orpheus (red).

 

 

1000

 

 

 

It's damn near linear except for that bass rolloff and treble above 10khz.

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