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Is there an objective way to measure instrument separation and detail except by ear ?

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Is there an objective way to measure instrument separation and detail except by ear ?

God! I hope not. The last thing we need is more numbers to lead people astray.
post #9903 of 18673
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Is there an objective way to measure instrument separation and detail except by ear ?

The only "attempt" at measuring detail extraction / airiness of headphones I've read, that in the end is still heavily correlational rather than causal, is done by purrin some time ago.

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The 'detail retrieval' measurements from Purrin are his CSD plots at an extreme -60db or something. It basically shows you where each headhpone's noise floor is and how deep into the recording they can resolve.  HD800 blows everything else out of the water in this aspect, followed by the HE-6 and some of the electrostats.  Beyerdynamics and Grados do especially bad in this test.

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Link please

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I can't link you to it, sorry.  Head-Fi won't allow it.

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Ohh well... I'll probably find it easily

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If I get an  electronics shop to add in male/female Oyaide plugs to the middle of the Canare cable, it would not really affect the sound would it ?

I just want to keep the stock cable but obviously it is very long for some laptop sources etc. and would prefer to have a shorter length when needed. 

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Thread Starter 

^^ As long as the work is done properly you won't hear any difference. In fact I had a cable made like that for another pair of hp's and it worked out perfectly for me. 

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^^ As long as the work is done properly you won't hear any difference. In fact I had a cable made like that for another pair of hp's and it worked out perfectly for me. 


Great, was going to get these as a solution to taming the cable !

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How do people find the 400's after 6 months to a year ? I think I read the treble tones down a bit more after 000's of hours of use ?

Most of us have modded the HE-400 by improving the stock pads, or buying aftermarket pads. These are definitely improvements which will often increase the upper mids, or reducing the treble or sometimes both. 

 

This headphone has no burn in to my ear, but the aftermarket pads or modded stock pads definitely help the sound.


Edited by Marleybob217 - 4/21/13 at 5:04am
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At any rate I'm sure ill be happy, all I have right now is broken grados, and shure srh 840s. Try and enjoy something like, how to destroy angels, on an 840, its so bland and boring for that kind of music I can't wait for the open sub bass enjoyment to begin....next week I shall see.

I'm reading a bunch of negative reviews on the shure srh840s lately. I actually found them to sound excellent, especially for a closed headphone.

I returned them because of the awful headband, it wouldn't stay on my head...

 

I think you will like the HE-400, it's way more engaging than the 840, but a bit less neutral.

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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post

If I get an  electronics shop to add in male/female Oyaide plugs to the middle of the Canare cable, it would not really affect the sound would it ?

I just want to keep the stock cable but obviously it is very long for some laptop sources etc. and would prefer to have a shorter length when needed. 

Don't forget that the value of the HE400 will decrease if you do this. I'm not even sure if you can buy the stock cable, I did see one that looked like it but it was very expensive.

I'm planning to buy the connectors, and build a cable from scratch.

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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Don't forget that the value of the HE400 will decrease if you do this. I'm not even sure if you can buy the stock cable, I did see one that looked like it but it was very expensive.

I'm planning to buy the connectors, and build a cable from scratch.

I'm sure if you email Head-Direct about it, they will be more than willing you sell you an extra HE400 Canare cable for a fee. I doubt they have a shortage of those biggrin.gif

 

Besides by buying one of their products, they are obliged to comply if you want to give them more $$$ lol.

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I'm sure if you email Head-Direct about it, they will be more than willing you sell you an extra HE400 Canare cable for a fee. I doubt they have a shortage of those biggrin.gif

 

Besides by buying one of their products, they are obliged to comply if you want to give them more $$$ lol.

How much do you think it would cost? if it would be over like $35 it's not really worth it :0

 

Also, there is something about the stock cable, the rubber I think, I hate it. It's so stiff and I don't know, I just hate the feel of it!

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