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post #9631 of 18136
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

As far as your pads go, you don't even need to include them in your RMA, from what I've heard. I remember a distributor suggesting that people not include their pads because HiFiMan will likely replace your headphones with a new pair in a retail box with extra sets of pads.

 

hmm, interesting. What about modded grills then? biggrin.gif


Edited by InCreD1Ble - 4/11/13 at 7:38am
post #9632 of 18136
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

That's not metal, bro, it's an extremely thin stretched mylar (it's a type of polyester) film that acts as the diaphragm.

Ah, I could never tell this. Thanks!


Edited by InCreD1Ble - 4/11/13 at 7:30am
post #9633 of 18136
Think of it as like depth perception...

The ability to perceive the relative distance of objects in one's visual field.

Distance in one's depth perception, is usually associated with something in front of you.

When you tend to explain to others how wide something is, you will extend your arms to the sides of you, right?

Not that hard to figure out.

Then there is soundstage height, which is pretty self explanatory.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/11/13 at 7:06am
post #9634 of 18136

Hey guys just thought I'd post an update on my clogged ear problem.

 

I continued using those drop with no success, so today I went to see an ear specialist and I've come away a happy man. He literally sucked out all the gunk from both my ears, not only the one that was experiencing the blockage. But his method imo wasn't the best. He used a device which works similar to a vacuum cleaner, with brute force just sucking the wax out. It felt quite painful, as though my ear drums were being pulled but it didn't last long.

 

As for the results, it's like someone gave me the ears of an infant. I can hear better than now than I ever could, it's quite amazing really. I put on my HE-400 to give my new ears a workout, it's like someone removed a cloak off the headphone, next level clarity. 

 

But I won't be using them anymore today so I can give my ears a rest, that suction device really did a number on them.

post #9635 of 18136
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

Hey guys just thought I'd post an update on my clogged ear problem.

 

I continued using those drop with no success, so today I went to see an ear specialist and I've come away a happy man. He literally sucked out all the gunk from both my ears, not only the one that was experiencing the blockage. But his method imo wasn't the best. He used a device which works similar to a vacuum cleaner, with brute force just sucking the wax out. It felt quite painful, as though my ear drums were being pulled but it didn't last long.

 

As for the results, it's like someone gave me the ears of an infant. I can hear better than now than I ever could, it's quite amazing really. I put on my HE-400 to give my new ears a workout, it's like someone removed a cloak off the headphone, next level clarity. 

 

But I won't be using them anymore today so I can give my ears a rest, that suction device really did a number on them.

good for you beav ! I am headed to a specialist myself over the weekend.

post #9636 of 18136
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

good for you beav ! I am headed to a specialist myself over the weekend.

 

Wise move my friend, you're bound to have good results. I mean even my right ear which I thought was fine can now hear much better. 

 

People on this forum are always looking to upgrade their gear to reach their end-game sound system, but don't forget to upgrade your ears too, take it from me!

post #9637 of 18136

Brief/early impressions of the Alpha Pads after about an hour of use last night:

 

I think I like them so far - there seems to be slightly more mids present, likely due to the toning town of the treble and bass regions.  It's not a bad change, the bass still sounds rich and textured...perhaps a bit less mid bass, but I still felt impact when a song called for it.  I found that I enjoyed the presentation with a flat EQ compared to my j$ Beyer pads, which I had previously been using with some minor EQ in the upper FR.  I speculate there may be a few reasons for this: ear opening shape, driver angle and nylon filter.  My j$ Beyers pads currently have very transparent nylon, even more so than the velour pads.  I plan on swapping it out with a thicker nylon for the full comparison.  I have not A-B'ed any of the other pads I have with the Alphas yet, just threw them on and went to town - I will plan on posting my impressions between Alpha/j$/pleather/velour at some point in the next few days.

 

Comfort, in comparison to the j$ Beyers, is higher for me.  The leather is softer and the pad is more plush - I didn't notice any discomfort after an hour with glasses on.  I can say the same about the j$ Beyers (and a leather conditioner could make them even softer) but the Alphas win for sure in this area, plus the build seems to be of slightly higher quality.  Still, I think the j$ pads are a quality handcrafted item in their own right.  This makes me that much more excited to get a pair of Mad Dogs.  I will say that it's apparent the Alpha pad shape is made to fit the more oval shape of the T50RP, but still looks nice on the round HiFiMans.  I was able to get them on the rings and onto the mount fine, but it took a little extra time and effort since they have more material on the back and I didn't want to modify them.

 

Sorry for the cell pics, but here they are on my HE-400.  You'll notice the back end shape most in the second picture, where it seems a little flat - this is just the shape of the foam inside.  It's not noticeable when they are on your head, though. redface.gif

 

 

 

 

post #9638 of 18136
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

Wise move my friend, you're bound to have good results. I mean even my right ear which I thought was fine can now hear much better. 

 

People on this forum are always looking to upgrade their gear to reach their end-game sound system, but don't forget to upgrade your ears too, take it from me!

I think a specialist trip may be in order for me soon...it's not bad, but I feel like there may be some stuff in there still.  If it could be better it's definitely worth a look into.  Great advice, and I'm glad the issue is solved + improved hearing!


Edited by modulor - 4/11/13 at 8:04am
post #9639 of 18136
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post

[...] I tried my he-400 with about 5 different amps [...]
 

 

... and the winner is ?

post #9640 of 18136
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

Yep and I've figured out that the Stax is definitely the end game for me, but if I do it, I'm gonna do it right and not leave too much room for more upgradeitis.

Seeing as how you liked the electrostat sound from the Stax demo...have you considered these?  http://www.head-fi.org/t/581491/koss-esp-950-thread I stumbled across them a few weeks ago, and then again today and started reading into them.  Just a thought!

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You know I hear a lot of people mention how painful the treble is on the HE-400 but I really don't feel it at all. I know its all about sound preferences but never have I considered the treble to be shrill. Either the amps I'm plugging these into create the warmest signature in the world or I am crazy because I really do like the treble a lot.

 

If I were to have anything on these phones to fault, it would be the slight recession of the mid range. Sometimes I like it when listening to symphonies and concerts because it gives that open feeling but for more intimate songs, it does make me want a little more forwardness. Overall though, I really become more attached to these each day. :D 

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

^you think they have a DEEP sondstage? I'd say the HE-500 does not have a deep soundstage, but have a fairly wide soundstage.

Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

Yeah, I'd have to agree with this statement.

 

The HE-500 is often compared to the LCD-2 in terms of signature and soundstage presentation.  The LCD-2 is (famously) known to possess a narrow (width) but deep (depth) soundstage.. like the HE-500.


Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Depth is the distance of the sound from your ear. And soundstage width is basically how far the soundstage moves forward, back, up and down from your ear. 

So in summary, depth is how far the a sound cue can be away from your ear. And soundstage width points to how good rear and front sound cues come through.

 

I'm pretty sure this is the definition, I hope I got it right.

 

You've got it backwards, bro.

 

Originally Posted by mlxx View Post

I tested the v200 when I was buying an amp, I tried my he-400 with about 5 different amps.
The v200 had a big problem, compared to the others.. straight away it sounded like I was listening sitting in a closet.
It has a very closed in soundstage but otherwise it sounded good. I wouldn't recommend it with the he-400.
 

 

IME, the V200 doesn't constrict the soundstage.. nor does it unnaturally widen it.. it feels accurate.. maybe slightly less wide than some comparatively priced amps.. but feeling like you're sitting in a closet?  I'm going to disagree with you there.


Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

That's not how I defined those at all.

Depth: front and rear distance of sound. Width: how far sounds travel to the sides of you.
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Think of it as like depth perception...

The ability to perceive the relative distance of objects in one's visual field.

Distance in one's depth perception, is usually associated with something in front of you.

When you tend to explain to others how wide something is, you will extend your arms to the sides of you, right?

 

^ BINGO ^

post #9643 of 18136
Got my HE-400 and have listened to it for several hours now mainly through my headamp Pico/DAC. I'm beginning to think it may not provide enough juice: I am up most of the way on high gain. The symptom that I'm suspecting is a little bit of compression. Sound possible/likely?
post #9644 of 18136
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

The HE-500 is often compared to the LCD-2 in terms of signature and soundstage presentation.  The LCD-2 is (famously) known to possess a narrow (width) but deep (depth) soundstage.. like the HE-500.

^ BINGO ^

That's funny, I didn't read up on the LCD2 almost at all prior to getting the loaner. The first thing I noticed was that the soundstage had a lot of depth, and an average width. Funny how my impressions on their soundstage is basically the same as the general population. I specifically mentioned on my gaming review of it that the LCD2 had a very impressive depth to the sound, allowing for rear positional cues to be quite noticeable. That's one hell of a strength the LCD2 has over many, many other headphones. Depth is more important than width for gaming, IMO.
post #9645 of 18136
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Originally Posted by BigCabDaddy View Post

Got my HE-400 and have listened to it for several hours now mainly through my headamp Pico/DAC. I'm beginning to think it may not provide enough juice: I am up most of the way on high gain. The symptom that I'm suspecting is a little bit of compression. Sound possible/likely?

Yeah this might very well be the case. When I first bought the HE-400 and gave it a listen, I was quite underwhelmed. Turns out there wasn't enough power in my amp to drive the HE-400 well. (this was on high gain as well) I don't have a Pico so I can't say for sure but there may very well be not enough juice. I tried hooking it up to more powerful amp and that is when I realized I had been using a poorly matched amp. 

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