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post #9526 of 17960
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I've had problems with wax blockage in the past. I was able to cure the problem in different way.

 

First, I went to the doctor and the nurse used a large syringe full of warm purified water to irrigate the ear canals. It really hurt but on the third try she was able to evacuate the was and everything was perfect again. 

 

The next time it happened, the nurse was not able to successfully complete the evacuation and they had to send me home with a kit that can be picked up from any pharmacy. There is a solution that helps to melt and loosen the wax. Then there is a bottle compressed saline solution that you use after a few days. This also worked eventually but takes patience. 

 

None of this is much fun but has to be taken care. The Q-tips are a real danger and I strongly suggest not using them. 

 

Yeah the drops im using will take some days, im just so impatient lol. I've read somewhere that syringing can cause tinnitus, is that possible?

post #9527 of 17960

My programming teacher in college had that same problem if I'm not mistaken. He said he found a homemade solution on the internet involving warm water and vinegar?(can't remember very well if it was really vinegar). Try googling it.


Edited by Okamoto - 4/8/13 at 10:06am
post #9528 of 17960
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

Yeah the drops im using will take some days, im just so impatient lol. I've read somewhere that syringing can cause tinnitus, is that possible?

 

Not that I know. They have also used a pump action water bottle to do the same thing for me at the doctors office. It creates a "surge" action that is often helpful for evacuation. This could certainly be done at home if you have someone to help. 

post #9529 of 17960

I love how on multiple occasions this thread has turned into a medical advice thread biggrin.gif

 

Anyways you shouldn't normally clean your ears. Especially with cu-tips. They clean themselves and trying to clean them generally results in  making them worse.

 

Definitely see your doctor if you have it clogged up bad enough where your hearing is bad in one ear. I wouldn't recommend pouring a bunch of cooking oils in your ear unless you actually know what you're doing. You don't want to turn a simple problem into something worse.

post #9530 of 17960

Yeah the drops im using are actually meant to be very effective, so if these dont work then homemade solutions would be quite unlikely to work either. Anyway I'll be booking an audiologist appointment in the morning... i'll keep you guys up to date, not that anyone should have an interest in some random person's left ear from half way round the globe tongue_smile.gif

 

And now back to HE-400 discussion.

post #9531 of 17960

A fellow Head-Fi'er friend of mine had some serious ear blockage issues, as well.. the ENT he went to gently swabbed his ear with a cutip dipped in mineral oil.. my friend said within moments, his ear was clear.  The ENT suggested doing this once or twice a week.

post #9532 of 17960

1. Q-Tips are not meant for cleaning earwax out of your ears. If you say it's worked for you, you're just lucky.

 

2. Alcohol is not what is recommended for use - that would be peroxide. Don't ever go out and buy the earwax removal kits if you hate wasting money (unless you need the dropper) because that stuff is just peroxide. If you are really, really impacted, pour a cap-full of peroxide into your ear, lay on your side and let it sit for at least ten minutes. Drain, irrigate with warm - not hot - water.

 

3. I've found a good middle ground for those who just really want to keep using Q-Tips for some reason. I have a condition regarding my ear wax and we'll leave it at that. I take a Q-Tip, dip it in peroxide, and let it sit in my ear. You do not push anything, you do not insert it deep, you do not forcibly remove any wax, you are simply using the q-tip as a method of delivering peroxide to the wax, which dissolves it on contact. This is the only acceptable method of using a Q-Tip, and should only be done occasionally to keep up with the maintenance, not to clear out an impacted blockage.

 

4. Don't use any of the home remedies, honestly. Vinegar is not a great solution because peroxide will work perfectly. There is no reason to use anything else. My experience on this goes back a few years. I went to the doctor SIX TIMES in 2010 with impacted ear wax (at first thought it was an ear infection due to the pain, but really it was so impacted it was stabbing into my ear drum) and have learned plenty of lessons for it.

post #9533 of 17960
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

1. Q-Tips are not meant for cleaning earwax out of your ears. If you say it's worked for you, you're just lucky.

 

2. Alcohol is not what is recommended for use - that would be peroxide. Don't ever go out and buy the earwax removal kits if you hate wasting money (unless you need the dropper) because that stuff is just peroxide. If you are really, really impacted, pour a cap-full of peroxide into your ear, lay on your side and let it sit for at least ten minutes. Drain, irrigate with warm - not hot - water.

 

3. I've found a good middle ground for those who just really want to keep using Q-Tips for some reason. I have a condition regarding my ear wax and we'll leave it at that. I take a Q-Tip, dip it in peroxide, and let it sit in my ear. You do not push anything, you do not insert it deep, you do not forcibly remove any wax, you are simply using the q-tip as a method of delivering peroxide to the wax, which dissolves it on contact. This is the only acceptable method of using a Q-Tip, and should only be done occasionally to keep up with the maintenance, not to clear out an impacted blockage.

 

4. Don't use any of the home remedies, honestly. Vinegar is not a great solution because peroxide will work perfectly. There is no reason to use anything else. My experience on this goes back a few years. I went to the doctor SIX TIMES in 2010 with impacted ear wax (at first thought it was an ear infection due to the pain, but really it was so impacted it was stabbing into my ear drum) and have learned plenty of lessons for it.

^ This.

 

I find it disturbing that many here are using these home-brewed methods to clean their ear canals.

post #9534 of 17960
With so many ways to misinterpret the proper usage and dangers of Q-tips, I don't understand how it's been able to stay in the market.
post #9535 of 17960
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Originally Posted by Kiont View Post

With so many ways to misinterpret the proper usage and dangers of Q-tips, I don't understand how it's been able to stay in the market.

Because if you tell the average joe who knows nothing about medical science or chemistry "here use this chemical solution called hydrogen peroxide and pour it into your ears, I promise you it won't melt through to your brain; alternatively use this cotton on a stick", he/she would probably pick the latter.

post #9536 of 17960

Is there an effect on the sound quality if you bend the foam lining inside of the pads out of shape? I got my HE-400s last friday and have been listening to them over the weekend, and today decided to take a peek inside to look at the drivers(they've white fyi). I looked at youtube videos for a guide and managed to take off a pad, though I may have been too forceful and likely caused the chip in the inner housing my right earcup has.

 

Anyways, the real problem was putting them back on, which was a huge unexpected pain in the butt. I looked at the youtube vids again and again and tried replicating their methods, but it didn't work. Along the way I mauled the foam on my pleathers (don't have the velours yet, will probably get them sometime when I have a non-staticy-when-turning-volume-knob amp) as I tried to align the tabs back into place, spent what must have been an hour trying every method I could think of trying to get more than 3 tabs in and pretty much mauling the foam before finally using the credit card method to jam into the final tab to snap it back into place, which took a few experimental tries in of itself. Now that that's done, I have a few spots where the foam is a bit smushed and bunched up from my fingers ramming through them trying to get the tabs back in, was wondering if that would be an issue.

 

I guess I could just go and buy the Velours if it is, though I doubt it.


Edited by Anvil - 4/8/13 at 8:42pm
post #9537 of 17960
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Originally Posted by Anvil View Post

Is there an effect on the sound quality if you bend the foam lining inside of the pads out of shape? I got my HE-400s last friday and have been listening to them over the weekend, and today decided to take a peek inside to look at the drivers(they've white fyi). I looked at youtube videos for a guide and managed to take off a pad, though I may have been too forceful and likely caused the chip in the inner housing my right earcup has.

 

Anyways, the real problem was putting them back on, which was a huge unexpected pain in the butt. I looked at the youtube vids again and again and tried replicating their methods, but it didn't work. Along the way I mauled the foam on my pleathers (don't have the velours yet, will probably get them sometime when I have a non-staticy-when-turning-volume-knob amp) as I tried to align the tabs back into place, spent what must have been an hour trying every method I could think of trying to get more than 3 tabs in and pretty much mauling the foam before finally using the credit card method to jam into the final tab to snap it back into place, which took a few experimental tries in of itself. Now that that's done, I have a few spots where the foam is a bit smushed and bunched up from my fingers ramming through them trying to get the tabs back in, was wondering if that would be an issue.

 

I guess I could just go and buy the Velours if it is, though I doubt it.

I'd take the foam out and try using a credit card to get the tabs of the pads back in.

post #9538 of 17960
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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

I'd take the foam out and try using a credit card to get the tabs of the pads back in.

 

I actually have reinstalled the pad with the credit card method, just wanted to know if there were any consequences to messing up the foam lining within the pad.

post #9539 of 17960
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Originally Posted by Anvil View Post

 

I actually have reinstalled the pad with the credit card method, just wanted to know if there were any consequences to messing up the foam lining within the pad.

If you're talking about those foam rings they use to raise the pads, I'd just throw them away. The HE-400 sounds better without them. 

post #9540 of 17960

Nice writeup ninjames. 

 

1. It's safe to say I'm never going to use Q-tips ever again, I've learned my lesson. But it's quite weird only now I experience this after having used Q-tips my whole life. 

 

2. The drops I'm using don't contain any peroxide at all. I may go and pickup some hydrogen peroxide as a last resort before seeing a doctor, I heard that stuff is quite potent. 

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