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post #9226 of 18107
One week on, I'm beginning to love these headphones more now. I don't think I be returning them. I'm definitely getting used to their sound and appreciating that, despite them definitely not having a neutral or honest representation of the sounds given to them, they do allow one to enjoy a vast array of music in a very vivid way, which I can be nothing but pleased about.


I must add that I recently bought a cheap Bravo Audio Ocean tube amp. This was my first foray into tubes and was purchased especially to drive a used vintage pair of AKG K240 DFs (600 ohms) that I received just days before the HifiMans. Well, as it turned out, this little blue bundle is amazing and drives all my cans beautifully. I swapped the stock valve for a used Mullard from eBay and the difference was surprising to say the least. Aside from it bringing out the bottom end and filling the mids out on my AKGs (intended purpose), I found that they really tamed down that 'tizziness' at the very top end on the HE-400s. This was my single biggest issue with these headphones and I am over the moon with this pairing with the little valve amp! This very match stopped me from returning them. I just thought people might like to know that, in case they fancied a relatively low cost tip-toe into valve amplification..


http://bravoaudio.com/Bravo%20Ocean.html
post #9227 of 18107

This is not much of an impression but more of a question to you HE400 owners.

If I find the treble of the Beyerdynamics DT990 Edition 250Ohm too extensive and fatiguing, how will the HE400s treble compare? As they are rather cheap right now at HeadAmp I consider getting some but I am always scared of the highs. 

Some feedbackon this would be nice.

post #9228 of 18107
Being a huge fan of both the 990 (Ive owned...7 at several different points in time) and HE-400, I have to say that the HE-400 is more jarring in the treble. Not necessarily because it has more, but because the darker tonality makes the treble pop out of nowhere. With the 990, you get a consistently bright signature, so the treble doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. Either way, if you're good with the 990's treble, I doubt the HE-400 will be problematic overall, though it does stick out and seem more out of place.

The HE-400 is an upgrade from the 990 overall, though you will lose out some of that immedaite midbass emphasis...
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/1/13 at 10:47am
post #9229 of 18107

HE-400 has a similar treble peak, but it's not as broad as DT990's.  In short I think it's less fatiguing. 

post #9230 of 18107

Mh, I see. Well the thing is the DT990 treble has been fatiguing for me and I am looking for an alternative (HD650, HE300, HE400..)

 

Another Question: for now I am only using a Asus Xonar DG as AMP, would that work with the HE400?

 

Also I'd get the HE400 for 250€, is that a fine price you think?

post #9231 of 18107
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Originally Posted by insurgency View Post

Mh, I see. Well the thing is the DT990 treble has been fatiguing for me and I am looking for an alternative (HD650, HE300, HE400..)

 

Another Question: for now I am only using a Asus Xonar DG as AMP, would that work with the HE400?

 

Also I'd get the HE400 for 250€, is that a fine price you think?

 

That price is more than fine, it's a steal!

post #9232 of 18107
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Originally Posted by insurgency View Post

Mh, I see. Well the thing is the DT990 treble has been fatiguing for me and I am looking for an alternative (HD650, HE300, HE400..)

 

Another Question: for now I am only using a Asus Xonar DG as AMP, would that work with the HE400?

 

Also I'd get the HE400 for 250€, is that a fine price you think?

Woa where? Is that secondhanded?

post #9233 of 18107

It's a slightly used one that I'd get from a friend. Also as far as I know it is the latest Revision.

 

There are also some for 350$ on headamp as far as I know.


Edited by insurgency - 4/1/13 at 11:20am
post #9234 of 18107
The HE400 is fatiguing too. Id look into the HD650.
post #9235 of 18107

Thanks for the input, I'll listen to them to see how much it impacts me and take a further look at the HD650.

post #9236 of 18107
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

I personally don't think the HE-500 is technically superior to HE-500. Except I found the HE-500 to have a bit more of a controlled sound all the way around (not bass, though)

 

Hey ... what's with the circular reference in your post?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Woa where? Is that secondhanded?

 

This past weekend, there was a pair that was in excellent shape and sold by a member of the forum here for $300, including shipping and PayPal fees.  The headphones included the original cardboard box, the black Canare cable, the pleather pads and a pair of velour pads. wink.gif


Edited by wje - 4/1/13 at 2:00pm
post #9237 of 18107
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Hey ... what's with the circular reference in your post?

 

 

 

This past weekend, there was a pair that was in excellent shape and sold by a member of the forum here for $300, including shipping and PayPal fees.  The headphones included the original cardboard box, the black Canare cable, the pleather pads and a pair of velour pads. wink.gif

That's a nice deal. Then again, they would have to ship from the us, so I would still have to pay import taxes and might as well buy everything new in Europe.

post #9238 of 18107

Is it true that the sound of the headphones changes greatly depending on the pads?

 

From what I've read the pleather (original?) pads make the cans sound much darke/warmer for example.

post #9239 of 18107
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Originally Posted by insurgency View Post

Is it true that the sound of the headphones changes greatly depending on the pads?

 

From what I've read the pleather (original?) pads make the cans sound much darke/warmer for example.

Yes, it is true to some degree. Try using the velours and then the pleathers and I'm sure you'll notice a difference in bass and treble.

post #9240 of 18107

So you'd say velour pads sound better than the standard pleather? 

Am I reading this right that the pleather pads lower the treble/make it less.. emphasised? 

If the velour sound much better I might think about getting them, but if I get higher tremble with them I'll probably rather stay with the pleather.

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