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post #9196 of 18450

It's not that HE-400 is bad for classical music, it's just that I think there are other headphones better suited for the genre. But frankly, I've not listened to a lot of classical stuff with these, so I can't say for sure.

post #9197 of 18450

HD 650's are better for classical, definitely

post #9198 of 18450
Thread Starter 

I'm quite fond of the hd650 but the he400 was better at classical IMO. Better attack and decay of notes I'd say. 

post #9199 of 18450
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Originally Posted by DarthUnnamed View Post

HD 650's are better for classical, definitely

 

Does HD650 have better dynamics / treble detail extraction / tactile bass / openness or clarity compared to HE400? Nope; at best they are on par, if not worse, in those specific attributes.

 

HD650s exceed HE400 in timbre, refinement, and neutrality, but IMO those are not enough to make them better for classical music. Jazz/vocal music perhaps.

post #9200 of 18450

HD650 is definitely not better than HE-400s for classical, much less for Jazz. For Vocals I agree, though.

post #9201 of 18450
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

OK-I know this has been addressed ad nausea, but I am still curious.

 

I listen to a lot of aggressive rock, metal and punk. But, I also like classical, jazz, folk, new age and electronic ambient.

 

I have Grados which I adore for my heavy rock oriented music.

 

If I wanted to look at something for non rock genres particularly biased toward larger sound stage for symphonic music which is an area Grados are notoriously lacking, is the HE 500 the slam dunk better choice over the 400?

 

I will be going to a meet next month, but thought I'd pose the question.....

 

Thx.

Jazz and Electronic sound great on the HE-400.

post #9202 of 18450
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Nope never ever had that lol! That sounds more like a driver/soundcard malfunction, like a decoding error, than something in the headphone. Did you ever hear it with other speakers/headphones?

I've tried with a friend's HD-650 on the same setup and didn't hear the “...twaack...”

I've also lent my setup to another friend who tested on his CD transport and separate DAC. He also heard the “...twaack...” sound occasionally.

I'm suspecting the problem could be with the driver.

Steve
post #9203 of 18450

If it's something that is replicable on the same moments of the same songs then it's not the headphones.

post #9204 of 18450
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

If it's something that is replicable on the same moments of the same songs then it's not the headphones.

The “...twaack...” sound appears to be random. Would happen one day then nothing for the next few days. No particular song makes the “...twaack...” sound.
All the music files are either 24bit /96kHz from HD Tracks or ripped to lossless FLAC files from CD.

Steve
post #9205 of 18450
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

Uhm...there is certainly a time to unplug. I love listening to music with hp's as much as anyone, but dude...it's time to unplug. biggrin.gif

post #9206 of 18450
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Originally Posted by catspaw View Post

 

I would do whatever that cat tells me for fear of my life.

post #9207 of 18450
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Originally Posted by steveting99 View Post


The “...twaack...” sound appears to be random. Would happen one day then nothing for the next few days. No particular song makes the “...twaack...” sound.
All the music files are either 24bit /96kHz from HD Tracks or ripped to lossless FLAC files from CD.

Steve

 

I think I know what you mean about that sound, I experience it too. It happens when I pause or unpause while sound is playing from my headphones. The louder the music, the louder the twack. For example that 30Hz wav file someone posted a few pages back, if I pause and unpause I hear a pretty loud twack sound. I'll see if I can record it and post it here.

post #9208 of 18450

The "twack" from pausing a low frequency tone is fairly natural, it's just the diaphragm membrane coming to a halt as the signal abruptly ceases.

post #9209 of 18450
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

The "twack" from pausing a low frequency tone is fairly natural, it's just the diaphragm membrane coming to a halt as the signal abruptly ceases.

 

Yeah I too thought it was something along those lines, it's no biggie imo.

 

Anyway here's what it sounds like on my headphones, ignore the rustling in the background. You can clearly hear the thud when I pause and unpause.

 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tCsPxkyerT

post #9210 of 18450
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Eh I think people'll enjoy HE400 with classical music; it has most of the attributes (high dynamics, high detail extraction especially from treble, tactile bass, extremely open and clear-sounding) needed.


To me, the treble peak overshadows the real sound of details. I don't like the treble of the HE-400, it does not seam realistic. That is a dealbreaker for me

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