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post #9181 of 20630
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Originally Posted by cssarrow View Post

The more i listen to these HE-400, the more i prefer it with upbeat songs than it's older brother, the HE-500.

 

HE-500 is still however, the best balanced sounding headphone i've ever heard.

HE-400 sounds a little to forward & has a small sound stage.

 

Anyone else think the same?

 

Tim

I don't think the soundstage is small of the HE400 by any means actually :p

post #9182 of 20630
The HE-400 has a fairly natural soundstage, IMHO. Not too big, and not too small.
post #9183 of 20630

I don't find HE-400 soundstage small either. But anyway, planars in general aren't known for having ultra-large soundstages.

post #9184 of 20630

OK-I know this has been addressed ad nausea, but I am still curious.

 

I listen to a lot of aggressive rock, metal and punk. But, I also like classical, jazz, folk, new age and electronic ambient.

 

I have Grados which I adore for my heavy rock oriented music.

 

If I wanted to look at something for non rock genres particularly biased toward larger sound stage for symphonic music which is an area Grados are notoriously lacking, is the HE 500 the slam dunk better choice over the 400?

 

I will be going to a meet next month, but thought I'd pose the question.....

 

Thx.

post #9185 of 20630
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

OK-I know this has been addressed ad nausea, but I am still curious.

 

I listen to a lot of aggressive rock, metal and punk. But, I also like classical, jazz, folk, new age and electronic ambient.

 

I have Grados which I adore for my heavy rock oriented music.

 

If I wanted to look at something for non rock genres particularly biased toward larger sound stage for symphonic music which is an area Grados are notoriously lacking, is the HE 500 the slam dunk better choice over the 400?

 

I will be going to a meet next month, but thought I'd pose the question.....

 

Thx.

I think the HE400 does symphonic music exceptionally well, handles it very easily. Don't think the HE500 will be a slam dunk better than the HE400 in anything. Apart from songs that have too much treble maybe.

post #9186 of 20630

Personally I found the soundstage of the HE's quite natural in the beginning, but as of now I see it has shortcomings, especially in depth and the earlier discussed centerstage.

post #9187 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

I think the HE400 does symphonic music exceptionally well, handles it very easily. Don't think the HE500 will be a slam dunk better than the HE400 in anything. Apart from songs that have too much treble maybe.

OK-thanks....I've been reading all the teble posts. Naturally, with my Grados I'm used to some brighter sounds....and I would not mind saving $300 on the purchase price! From what I've been reading, I think I'm going to enjoy the base on the 400, also.

post #9188 of 20630
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

OK-thanks....I've been reading all the teble posts. Naturally, with my Grados I'm used to some brighter sounds....and I would not mind saving $300 on the purchase price! From what I've been reading, I think I'm going to enjoy the base on the 400, also.

Correct me if I'm wrong but symphonic music or classic, usually doesn't have a lot of treble and is mostly midrange based right?

So that's why, the seperation can shine, because there is absolutely no treble issue. Do try them first though!

post #9189 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Correct me if I'm wrong but symphonic music or classic, usually doesn't have a lot of treble and is mostly midrange based right?

So that's why, the seperation can shine, because there is absolutely no treble issue. Do try them first though!

OK-makes sense. To be clear, I don't listen to that much classical, but do like some symphonic music, soundtracks, orchestral jazz, new age, etc. And, would like a second set of cans to compliment my Grados for anything and everything that is not in face over driven guitar rock which tends to be what I listen to the majority of the time.

post #9190 of 20630

I don't think HE-400 would be the best phone for classical stuff.

 

It's been a while already, but I remember David Solomon speaking very highly of the Beyer DT660 for classical music. Never heard it myself, but for those who are on a low budget, maybe it's worth a try.

 

This is the thread, by the way: http://www.head-fi.org/t/559542/i-truly-believe-these-are-one-of-the-best-classical-music-headphones-ive-ever-heard

post #9191 of 20630

Always this talk about how well a headphone works with a certain genre...

I think a good headphone should work well with every genre. If it's actually bad with a genre, the headphone is bad (imo).

post #9192 of 20630

Eh I think people'll enjoy HE400 with classical music; it has most of the attributes (high dynamics, high detail extraction especially from treble, tactile bass, extremely open and clear-sounding) needed.

post #9193 of 20630

It's not that HE-400 is bad for classical music, it's just that I think there are other headphones better suited for the genre. But frankly, I've not listened to a lot of classical stuff with these, so I can't say for sure.

post #9194 of 20630

HD 650's are better for classical, definitely

post #9195 of 20630
Thread Starter 

I'm quite fond of the hd650 but the he400 was better at classical IMO. Better attack and decay of notes I'd say. 

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