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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Yeah yeah experts say this and that, and heresay says this and that. The bottom line is that cable business is entirely headphone-dependent, it depends on how revealing the headphone is. On a Beats Studio you won't hear any difference between silver and copper cabling of course because the headphones overshadow any subtle difference.

 

On more appropriate cans it's fairly well-known in that pure copper sounds warmer, with a looser more rumbly bass and less prominent treble; vise versa for pure silver. Silver-plated copper tends to be something in the middle.

 

On my HE400, the difference between Hifiman copper and Hifiman SPC is subtle but my ears picked it up right away; my HE500 reveal much more significant tonal differences. I can imagine this difference being even more apparent with something more ultra-revealing such as HE6 or HD800.


........and SPC/silver maybe better at instrument separation ? Yes, SPC might be safe middle ground actually.

I just got a good deal on these cans so I'm going to try them for a while and if they are not for me go for modded Fostex.

So happy to join the Hifiman-HE400 tribe anyway !

post #9152 of 17711
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Yeah yeah experts say this and that, and heresay says this and that. The bottom line is that cable business is entirely headphone-dependent, it depends on how revealing the headphone is. On a Beats Studio you won't hear any difference between silver and copper cabling of course because the headphones overshadow any subtle difference.

 

On more appropriate cans it's fairly well-known in that pure copper sounds warmer, with a looser more rumbly bass and less prominent treble; vise versa for pure silver. Silver-plated copper tends to be something in the middle.

 

On my HE400, the difference between Hifiman copper and Hifiman SPC is subtle but my ears picked it up right away; my HE500 reveal much more significant tonal differences. I can imagine this difference being even more apparent with something more ultra-revealing such as HE6 or HD800.

 

Well put. I guess that's why people say the HD800 is so dependent on the upstream gear.

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Originally Posted by steveting99 View Post

Hi guys,

 

Occasionally my  HE-400 creates a funny sound - "..twaaack.." when playing flac files through the laptop, using foobar2000 and Compass 2 DAC/amp combo.

 

I've lent the HE-400 to a friend who connected it a CD transport and using another DAC/amp and he hears the occasional "twaaack".

 

Most of the time, the headphones sound great.

 

Has anyone experienced this with their HE-400 unit?

 

Steve 

 

May be a player or driver issue. Try raising the buffer length on foobar or reinstall your drivers.

 

Also, just for precaution purposes, always plug your phones after you turn the amp on, and turn it off after you have unplugged them.

 

 

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Yeah yeah experts say this and that, and heresay says this and that. The bottom line is that cable business is entirely headphone-dependent, it depends on how revealing the headphone is. On a Beats Studio you won't hear any difference between silver and copper cabling of course because the headphones overshadow any subtle difference.

 

On more appropriate cans it's fairly well-known in that pure copper sounds warmer, with a looser more rumbly bass and less prominent treble; vise versa for pure silver. Silver-plated copper tends to be something in the middle.

 

On my HE400, the difference between Hifiman copper and Hifiman SPC is subtle but my ears picked it up right away; my HE500 reveal much more significant tonal differences. I can imagine this difference being even more apparent with something more ultra-revealing such as HE6 or HD800.

 

The problem is when people claim it changes the headphone performance. Very unlikely to me.


Edited by Okamoto - 3/30/13 at 2:14am
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post


........and SPC/silver maybe better at instrument separation ? Yes, SPC might be safe middle ground actually.

I just got a good deal on these cans so I'm going to try them for a while and if they are not for me go for modded Fostex.

So happy to join the Hifiman-HE400 tribe anyway !

I'd say go for pure copper for HE400; it has a bright enough treble that it warrants that.

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Can anyone suggest a good balanced cable for the HE400s it must come with a 4pin xlr connection to match my amp, not too expensive and available either as an import or available locally within the UK.

 

Also has anyone carried out any mods to the HE400s with angling the ear speakers away from the front of the ears aka like AKG K1000s, I had a go and suprisingly the bass didn't really suffer but the soundstage widened and vocals were better.

post #9156 of 17711
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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

Please kindly comment: Do the HE-400s feel heavy when you wear them? Are they comfortable on a big head? Thanks!

I used to feel that way when I bought them (a month and a half ago). Without doing any modification, I've gotten used to them and actually like the way they are snug around my head. For what its worth, I'm able to listen to them for at least a couple of hours non-stop before something called life calls me away.

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Originally Posted by Mikeb View Post

Can anyone suggest a good balanced cable for the HE400s it must come with a 4pin xlr connection to match my amp, not too expensive and available either as an import or available locally within the UK.

 

Also has anyone carried out any mods to the HE400s with angling the ear speakers away from the front of the ears aka like AKG K1000s, I had a go and suprisingly the bass didn't really suffer but the soundstage widened and vocals were better.

 

If you are in the UK, you should check out toxic cables. There is a long wait though.

 

http://toxic-cables.co.uk/

post #9158 of 17711
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post

Received HE-400 in the mail today, have been unable to put them down ever since unboxing them. As a 6'3'' man these feel a tiny bit small, almost as if they were designed for an average sized Asian. The cables require tiny fingers to screw them in, the earpads are good 20% smaller than Q701's, the headband must extend all the way to fit me - but those issues aside, the sound is simply phenomenal. Q701s in comparison are shrill, bright, aggressively mid forward, and bass light. 

 

HE-400 on other hand sound ruler flat and incredibly smooth to my ears.

 

Started off with some Steely Dan, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Rob Zombie, Adele, Judas Priest, Miles Davis - everything sounds just right - a bit more bass wouldn't hurt but they respond real well to EQ. No matter how loud I go, they still don't sound too bright or unpleasant. I notice a bit of tizzyness in the upper treble region in some songs but it doesn't ruin music for me.

 

If my initial impressions don't change in the next week or two I'll be selling Q701s and keeping HE-400s. I'm looking forward to a weekend with this great sounding piece of technology.

 

Bought them from HeadAmp, another big vouch for Justin even though it would have been nice if he shipped them a day or two earlier


Great First Impression! I would say you are approximately mirroring the experience of most people commenting here. If you like them right out of the box, you will probably love them in no time.

I wasn't as blown away as I wanted to be (at first), but these are the first phones that have gone from 'like' to 'love' to 'I-will-jealously-defend-them' over time. More comfort would be good for me, but I am generally more than satisfied. Welcome to the club!

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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post

Bought them from HeadAmp, another big vouch for Justin even though it would have been nice if he shipped them a day or two earlier

 

It had been reported in many threads that the HE-400 and even some instances of the HE-500 being in short supply.  Justin had indicated that his supply of the HE-400 had dried up for a period of time until HifiMAN could get the product back out to vendors.  Also, in 2012, HifiMAN opened up a US distribution center in Delaware.  I believe their objective was to be able to handle faster turn-around times on resupplying vendors as well as shipping out purchases made via their own Web site.

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yeah i actually spoke to a few vendors and they all say the same thing short of supply, some say they are playing catch up with the whole new year lost time plus the time to get them to US. The good news is the he400 is selling.

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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

It had been reported in many threads that the HE-400 and even some instances of the HE-500 being in short supply.  Justin had indicated that his supply of the HE-400 had dried up for a period of time until HifiMAN could get the product back out to vendors.  Also, in 2012, HifiMAN opened up a US distribution center in Delaware.  I believe their objective was to be able to handle faster turn-around times on resupplying vendors as well as shipping out purchases made via their own Web site.

 

These were one of the b-stock sets which from my understanding were ready to be shipped immediately, its not a big deal - I'm just an impatient online-buyer. On a different note, I wiped down my HE-400s with a damp cloth after receiving them and the white Hifiman logo & L/R indicators are completely gone. Did they stamp this with chalk dust?

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Originally Posted by Mikeb View Post

Can anyone suggest a good balanced cable for the HE400s it must come with a 4pin xlr connection to match my amp, not too expensive and available either as an import or available locally within the UK.

 

Also has anyone carried out any mods to the HE400s with angling the ear speakers away from the front of the ears aka like AKG K1000s, I had a go and suprisingly the bass didn't really suffer but the soundstage widened and vocals were better.


edit. nvm. Forgot it must be inside UK.

post #9163 of 17711
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

If you are in the UK, you should check out toxic cables. There is a long wait though.

 

http://toxic-cables.co.uk/

I've tried to go this route.  They only answer their PM's about 1/3 of the time.  You have to send multiple PM's with the same question to get any answers.  I asked him for his Pay Pal address to send him money and he won't even respond.  I've given up, even though the guy supposedly makes great cables.  Even if you succeed in getting on the wait list , there is an 8 week wait, last I heard.  Any other ideas?

post #9164 of 17711
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post

 

These were one of the b-stock sets which from my understanding were ready to be shipped immediately, its not a big deal - I'm just an impatient online-buyer. On a different note, I wiped down my HE-400s with a damp cloth after receiving them and the white Hifiman logo & L/R indicators are completely gone. Did they stamp this with chalk dust?

Yeah, that paint is really cheap. I actually like the look of the HE-400 better without that logo.

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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

Yeah, that paint is really cheap. I actually like the look of the HE-400 better without that logo.

Mine is starting to get erased slowly but surely.

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