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post #8956 of 18092
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Originally Posted by Izzot View Post

Just upgraded my ATH m50s to the HE-400 and I'm loving it so far. 

 

I'm not currently driving the headphones through anything but my Asus Xonar STX soundcard with the factory default opamp. Would getting a dedicated amp do a huge improvement to sound quality? Would buying a separate opamp to replace the factory default JRC2114 opamp do much? 

 

Thanks! smily_headphones1.gif

 

From what I've heard regarding opamps rolling, changes are very subtle. A dedicated amp would probably give more desirable results, but keep in mind the HE-400 is not hard to drive at all. 

post #8957 of 18092

Some pics of the fabric I finally attached to the J$ pads. Turned out pretty well I think. I had to cut up that one part a little so I could pull it tighter in that area.

 

 

 

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After just listening to it I think I'm starting to like it more and more. Treble isn't as fatiguing anymore and IMO, EQing just makes it sound worse now. Tried putting +1dB on 2khz, +4dB on 4khz, -3 on 8khz and -2 on 16khz but default just sounds much better overall now. I don't understand why people find velours so comfortable though. I always found them too hard, even on Beyerdynamics.

post #8959 of 18092
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Originally Posted by AyeVeeN View Post

After just listening to it I think I'm starting to like it more and more. Treble isn't as fatiguing anymore and IMO, EQing just makes it sound worse now. Tried putting +1dB on 2khz, +4dB on 4khz, -3 on 8khz and -2 on 16khz but default just sounds much better overall now. I don't understand why people find velours so comfortable though. I always found them too hard, even on Beyerdynamics.

The He-400 really needs a cut in the 10khhz region, less so in the 8khz region. If you're going to eq you really need an equalizer that allows much finer tuning.

 

And I all people agree with you that the velours are way too hard. You can try soaking them in water, and then drying them, this softens them a bit. You do get used to the treble emphasis, but go back to a warmer sounding headphone and you'll dislike the treble.

post #8960 of 18092
Wasnt very impressed with these. I really wanted to love them, but the treble region just, isn't there. It sounds like its missing when compared to my Q701. Well, off the the He-5Le lol.
post #8961 of 18092
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Originally Posted by DutchGFX View Post

Wasnt very impressed with these. I really wanted to love them, but the treble region just, isn't there. It sounds like its missing when compared to my Q701. Well, off the the He-5Le lol.
What rev. do you have? If you've done the Jerg mod, don't do it! It attenuates the trebel a lot! You can also use a thinner mesh for the ear pad, and use velours. Try the grill mod!!! It's worth it! biggrin.gif
post #8962 of 18092
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

What rev. do you have? If you've done the Jerg mod, don't do it! It attenuates the trebel a lot! You can also use a thinner mesh for the ear pad, and use velours. Try the grill mod!!! It's worth it! biggrin.gif

It's rev 2, I remember having the velour and it was better, but still not enough. The grill mod increases treble you say?

I read the 5LE has better treble, and it looks a lot sleeker, and seams to have better imaging. From what I read
post #8963 of 18092
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Originally Posted by DutchGFX View Post

It's rev 2, I remember having the velour and it was better, but still not enough. The grill mod increases treble you say?

I read the 5LE has better treble, and it looks a lot sleeker, and seams to have better imaging. From what I read
It should be a little, also replacing the cloth on the earpad where it toughes the driver housing with something thinner should help, but if the HE-5LE has better treble, I may want it, as I'm a treble head myself! biggrin.gif
post #8964 of 18092
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

It should be a little, also replacing the cloth on the earpad where it toughes the driver housing with something thinner should help, but if the HE-5LE has better treble, I may want it, as I'm a treble head myself! biggrin.gif

Lol yeah same, I'll test, I read it has more treble, so we will see smily_headphones1.gif
post #8965 of 18092
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Originally Posted by DutchGFX View Post

Lol yeah same, I'll test, I read it has more treble, so we will see smily_headphones1.gif
Please post impressions if you get it! If I'm not mistaken the HE500 has less treble than the HE400, right? If so, I'll probably get the HE-5LE one day! biggrin.gif
post #8966 of 18092
I have a feeling it's not treble he wants, but upper mids. The upper mids are recessed, whereas its emphasized on the Q701. Treble is HE400 all day...
post #8967 of 18092
Maybe smily_headphones1.gif so you think the 5le can deliver the upper mids I crave
post #8968 of 18092
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Originally Posted by DutchGFX View Post

It's rev 2, I remember having the velour and it was better, but still not enough. The grill mod increases treble you say?

I read the 5LE has better treble, and it looks a lot sleeker, and seams to have better imaging. From what I read

They do.

 

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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

Please post impressions if you get it! If I'm not mistaken the HE500 has less treble than the HE400, right? If so, I'll probably get the HE-5LE one day! biggrin.gif

 

If a good price came up would totally do 5-LE + 400 combo, they'd be too enticing. Alas since no magical deal as of now...will have to shell out for HE-6.

post #8969 of 18092

Currently using Audinst HUD MX1 + AKG Q701. Can't decide whether to invest into HE-400. My Q701s are a bit bass shy and a tad bit bright so I was hoping HE-400 would fix that but looks like many people consider HE-400 harsh, sibiliant, and tizzy which is not a good trait for a 400$ pair of headphones. Any truth to that? Perhaps HD650 will be a better investment.

post #8970 of 18092
K702 Anniversary is a better investment. Warmer, and more bassy than the Q701. Trust me. You can also just contact AKG and ask for some K702 Anniversary memory foam pads which will essentially do the same to the Q701. The pads alter the sound for more bass, wadmth, and smoothness. The K702 Anniversary is the most balanced headphone I have ever heard, while still having a nice amount of bass.

The HD650 is a solid choice too, but the Annie is technically superior, more spacious, and more evened out, including the treble, IMHO.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/23/13 at 10:13pm
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