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post #8851 of 18702

By the way anyone knows what is the MAX power that you can run to those orthos withouth damaging the driver?

I never saw any mention about that.

post #8852 of 18702
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Originally Posted by catspaw View Post

Technokid, the mids on the HE-400 arent bad, and i never wanted to imply that. But they are recessed. By "how much" is subjective so no point going into that at all.

My strongest gripe about that recession is some games where i miss a specific part of the music that is clearly pressent with my speakers (anywhere from my laptop speakers to my Z-5500 logitech).

 

You can still "hear" those sounds, but they are greatly overshadowed by the bass and treble, and the action feels a lot less Epic or Dynamic if you know what i mean.

I mostly noticed this Mass Effect 2, and while its not something that is constant or even happens often, its certainly something that i notice.

 

In other words, the Signature is not "exactly" what I want (but it is quite close).

 

I never said you thought they were bad I was just stating how I felt about them.

post #8853 of 18702
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I never said you thought they were bad I was just stating how I felt about them.

OKi, but we better stop or we end up saying Never say Never and thats a Justin Bieber movie i think :D.

post #8854 of 18702
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OKi, but we better stop or we end up saying Never say Never and thats a Justin Bieber movie i think :D.

 

I love Justin Bieber's music, he's the best thing since N-Sync. wink.gif

post #8855 of 18702
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By the way anyone knows what is the MAX power that you can run to those orthos withouth damaging the driver?

I never saw any mention about that.

I've played music on them max volume with my Asgard without a problem(no they weren't on my head otherwise I'd be deaf).

 

I think planars can take quite a bit of a beating.

post #8856 of 18702

Seriously though, I'm liking the HE-400 so much that I'm thinking about selling the rest of the IEM's I have and keep the Hifiman RE-400, I should be able to get around $300 give or take for them and that's enough to get the Asgard 2 or a pair of HD600's that I've wanted to try for a few years.

post #8857 of 18702
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I've played music on them max volume with my Asgard without a problem(no they weren't on my head otherwise I'd be deaf).

 

I think planars can take quite a bit of a beating.

Ughh, I wouldn't dare doing that. The headphone might be able to hold up, but if the amp distorts it might damage the headphone from what I have heard.  But in theory, they can probably handle somewhere between 5-15 watts

post #8858 of 18702
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Ughh, I wouldn't dare doing that. The headphone might be able to hold up, but if the amp distorts it might damage the headphone from what I have heard.  But in theory, they can probably handle somewhere between 5-15 watts

What do you mean if it distorts?

 

And yeah it's not something I would normally try, not sure why I did try it but they did hold up. I've heard its pretty damn hard to blow out a planar driver.

post #8859 of 18702
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I love Justin Bieber's music, he's the best thing since N-Sync. wink.gif

 

You must be destroyed (Lord of the Rings sylte) :D.

 

Anyhow, if the HE-400 can manage the Lyr at full volume, i might get it. I dont want someone to come my home and just for the lols put it at max volume and destroy my headphones.

post #8860 of 18702
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What do you mean if it distorts?

 

And yeah it's not something I would normally try, not sure why I did try it but they did hold up. I've heard its pretty damn hard to blow out a planar driver.


I guess the potentiometer only controls the voltage. Say, an amp can only put out 1 watt before distorting. The amps max output voltage is 8 volts. The impedance could be anything, but if we imagine cranking the amp to the max, having it put out 8 volts. Then if we have an impedance of 36 ohms, representing the HE-500, the output would be 1.777 watts. Put the amp can only output 1w without distorting, so it would distort.

 

I have heard this distortion can damage a headphone.

post #8861 of 18702

I pretty much have my mind up that I'm going to get the Schiit Asgard 2 as the amp I'm going to use with the HE-400.  I've read a few impressions of people using the HE-400 and they said its a great pairing, I'll get the HD600 some other time.

post #8862 of 18702
Though I'm sure the Asgard 2 is a nice amp, the HE-400 is capable of taking in a lot more power than the Asgard 2's max power. I'd go for something Audio-GD, IMHO. I know power isn't everything, but it's a damn good start. The Asgard 2 barely pumps over 1 watt. Even the cheap NFB15.32 pumps out over 2 watts at the HE-400's impedance, and around 3 watts at 32ohm. The HE-400 may not benefit much from the extra power, but other headphones like the HE-500 might. I personally would choose something other than the Asgard 2 if planar magnetics are gonna be used. If it's all dynamic, then yeah, I'd go for the Asgard 2.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/20/13 at 7:48am
post #8863 of 18702

The more I look at the Schiit Lyr the more I want to save up a little more and get it and that has plenty of power but so does the Asgard 2.  The Lyr just keeps calling my name and saying "you can afford me, its only $200 more".

post #8864 of 18702
The Asgard 2 seems to do a better job at higher impedance than low impedance, making it more ideal for dynamic cans like the HD650, IMHO.
post #8865 of 18702

+1 to what MLE said

 

Plus you gotta factor in tube rolling if you're going to go with the Lyr (which I'm not sure you would want to get into)

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