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post #8311 of 17946
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Originally Posted by Ohnoitztotoro View Post

 

Hard to say because when there is a lot going on during the song it is hard to tell. As far as I can tell, It does seem that it is a bit random and scratchy. I didn't hear a consistent pink noise hiss the entire time I was listening. Certain times the static would come up and then go away. I did not really test if it got louder with the volume increase so hard to tell. I can test that later tonight.  

 

Thanks again, 

Well if it's not at that loud of a volume in comparison to the music it's going to be completely masked in busy parts of the song, whether it's interference, a low SNR, or whatever. A good track to test what it sounds like is just a silent track. Try "Magic Window" by Boards of Canada.

 

My guess is that it's either a combination of amplifying a not too clean signal from your soundcards headphone out, the receiver itself doesn't have that great of a SNR, or maybe even a ground loop(but that's usually more of a hum). If the static is not amplified depending on your volume but instead stays consistent regardless of where the volume knob is, then it is probably interference from some component in your computer.

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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

Well if it's not at that loud of a volume in comparison to the music it's going to be completely masked in busy parts of the song, whether it's interference, a low SNR, or whatever. A good track to test what it sounds like is just a silent track. Try "Magic Window" by Boards of Canada.

My guess is that it's either a combination of amplifying a not too clean signal from your soundcards headphone out, the receiver itself doesn't have that great of a SNR, or maybe even a ground loop(but that's usually more of a hum). If the static is not amplified depending on your volume but instead stays consistent regardless of where the volume knob is, then it is probably interference from some component in your computer.

Thanks a lot for this. I've tried some quiet songs last night such as Diana Krall and there was definitely static in the background. If its the computer causing the static that's actually more relieving to me. Is it safe to say that I can most likely fix the static issue with an external DAC then? If so, would the schiit modi suffice?
post #8313 of 17946
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Originally Posted by Ohnoitztotoro View Post


Thanks a lot for this. I've tried some quiet songs last night such as Diana Krall and there was definitely static in the background. If its the computer causing the static that's actually more relieving to me. Is it safe to say that I can most likely fix the static issue with an external DAC then? If so, would the schiit modi suffice?

If it is the computer causing the static, this would fix it. But if it is interference from some computer components, then you would also hear it when nothing is playing at all.

 

Just to make sure though, have you tried the he-400 with any other devices? Or any other headphones with this receiver/PC combo? It could possibly just be part of the recording and you didn't notice it before, as the HE-400's are really revealing when it comes to that kind of stuff.

 

EDIT: Also, what kind of soundcard do you have?


Edited by chewy4 - 3/7/13 at 1:49pm
post #8314 of 17946
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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

If it is the computer causing the static, this would fix it. But if it is interference from some computer components, then you would also hear it when nothing is playing at all.

 

Just to make sure though, have you tried the he-400 with any other devices? Or any other headphones with this receiver/PC combo? It could possibly just be part of the recording and you didn't notice it before, as the HE-400's are really revealing when it comes to that kind of stuff.

 

EDIT: Also, what kind of soundcard do you have?

Yes I have also tried it with my HD650s and they also picked up on the static background noise when plugged into the receiver/PC combo. I have also tried this with a Little Dot MkII amplifier/PC and there has been static but it is very minimal and relatively more quiet. Comparing the little dot static vs the marantz, the receiver combo makes the static definitely more apparent.  

 

You do bring up some good points. These could all be a combination of the computer components, songs and receiver. As for sound card, I am using just the stock one that is in my Dell PC. It is about a year and a half old. 

post #8315 of 17946

LCD-2 got here today. Oh man. HE-400 going on the stand for a couple days.

 

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Except for hours 37-46. Those hours are awesome.

do miss those hours.

post #8316 of 17946

They're making sweet, sweet love.

 

 

post #8317 of 17946

Damn I think I ought to get the LCD-3s one day just to compare them with the HE-6...

 

Except they are so damn expensive mad.gif

post #8318 of 17946
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Originally Posted by IcedTea View Post

Did you order them with the velour pads? I'm not sure if they come with them or not, but if they don't, try giving them an order. 

 

The sound is different with both, so it doesn't hurt to find out which one suits you best. 

 

Yeah I'll have both ear pads so I'll see which one sounds the best but if the one that sounds the best I don't think is comfortable then I'll stick with the other but I don't think they'll sound bad no matter what ear pad I use.

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How are you liking the LCD-2 in comparison to the HE-400?

post #8320 of 17946
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Originally Posted by Ohnoitztotoro View Post

Yes I have also tried it with my HD650s and they also picked up on the static background noise when plugged into the receiver/PC combo. I have also tried this with a Little Dot MkII amplifier/PC and there has been static but it is very minimal and relatively more quiet. Comparing the little dot static vs the marantz, the receiver combo makes the static definitely more apparent.  

 

You do bring up some good points. These could all be a combination of the computer components, songs and receiver. As for sound card, I am using just the stock one that is in my Dell PC. It is about a year and a half old. 

 

 

I know on my Vintage Yamaha CR2020 I do get background noise (a hiss) but only when I raise the volume to 8 or more but would be ear splitting levels if music was playing. I would never listen at that, Im usually at 2-3 and its quiet. It could be just the receiver noise floor you are hearing due to the HE400 sensitivity. Has the Marantz ever been serviced in its lifetime?. These are receivers from the 70s and generally should get a tune up.

post #8321 of 17946
Can't wait 'till tomorrow! My HE400s are being DRIVEN IN from a guy from a meet I went to last weekend, he's upgrading to the HE500s, so that means I got his HE400s for $330 with FREE "Shipping". biggrin.gif
post #8322 of 17946
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Can't wait 'till tomorrow! My HE400s are being DRIVEN IN from a guy from a meet I went to last weekend, he's upgrading to the HE500s, so that means I got his HE400s for $330 with FREE "Shipping". biggrin.gif

Would be interested in how these sound compared to Mad Dogs with the new Alpha Pads. I'm really surprised at how they're still the same price with the new pads, which look pretty darn nice to me.

post #8323 of 17946
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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

Would be interested in how these sound compared to Mad Dogs with the new Alpha Pads. I'm really surprised at how they're still the same price with the new pads, which look pretty darn nice to me.
I thought the Alpha Dogs were too "Syrupey" and warm. They were way different the the HE400s. I lived with the Alpha Dogs for a while, but the HE400s are SO much better IMHO...
post #8324 of 17946

Hi all, the HE-400 seems perfect for me, the only thing keeping me from buying these is the drop in the upper mids.  Anyone have a problem with vocals on acoustic/musical tracks with these?  By problem, I mean does the drop in the upper mids take away from the naturalness of vocals on vocal-centric tracks?  Or is the drop in the upper mids an exagerated issue to you guys?

 

Also I plan on getting the velour pads.


Edited by mikewr - 3/7/13 at 8:36pm
post #8325 of 17946

Everybody says the drop in upper mids takes away from vocals.  I don't think they do.  I compared vs the LCD2 and the LCD2 isn't some magical deity in comparison when it comes to vocals.

 

Dropping the HE-400's mid-upper treble will take away some of the sibilance found in its vocals though.

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