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post #8026 of 17024
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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Hi again wink.gif

 

Just wanted to share my progress on perfect fun sounding he-400 to my ears.

 

Amp/DAC used : Schiit Magni, Schiit Modi

 

 

Exported preset for Electic-Q

 

 

 

 

27.2 HE400.zip 1k .zip file

 

 

 

 

 

With this EQ I can hear instruments more forward instead of "behind doors", vocals are much more preset, can enjoy/feel close sounding guitars nicely ,can focus on whichever instrument I want ,bass is great as always with little boost and I got no problem with treble at all me with this.

 

For me it's few steps from finished cure to he-400 imperfections.

 

Would be great If anyone of you guys could try it out and tell me some feedback very_evil_smiley.gif

 

I think I am nearly done.

 

Of course maybe it's total crap, you have to tell me biggrin.gif

 

I'am working on this by my ears and some graphs Jerg posted already, which helps a lot - I can see where to start.

 

 

 

 

ps: oh, forgot to take it under 0dB, well was listening to this about 3 hours in row and didn't experience any clipping so guess it's fine like this too.

 

 

That's too aggressive of an EQ, in my opinion. Try this instead:

 

Drop 20 Hz - 1kHz evenly by 4 dB, then have a steady straight slope upwards from 1kHz to 5.5kHz going from the -4dB level to 0dB level (5.5kHz will be the peak of the whole EQ at 0 dB), then a sharp but still straight slope down from 5.5kHz to 12kHz going from 0dB to -8dB, followed by a slope back up to 0dB from 12kHz to 20kHz.

post #8027 of 17024

I just did this "hot water soak" for my velour pads and let them dry. I must say there is quite a bit of difference in terms of comfort now. I dont detect any change in SQ but the velour is much softer around the ears and feels far less itchy. A worthy 'mod' in my opinion.

post #8028 of 17024
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Originally Posted by BrokeStudent View Post

I just did this "hot water soak" for my velour pads and let them dry. I must say there is quite a bit of difference in terms of comfort now. I dont detect any change in SQ but the velour is much softer around the ears and feels far less itchy. A worthy 'mod' in my opinion.

Thank you! Needed to hear this, gonna do that tomorrow.

If it is less itchy, then that would be all I want :D

post #8029 of 17024

Gonna try it too tomorrow. Can't turn down a chance to improve the pads free of charge.

post #8030 of 17024
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

Gonna try it too tomorrow. Can't turn down a chance to improve the pads free of charge.

+1

 

Already spent some bucks on the stock Denon pads, but too shallow for me and they dont fit me well, + the sound changes enough to stray me off them unfortunately :/

Otherwise would be comfort ++ very soft (even too much which makes them deform easily)

post #8031 of 17024
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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

If you're going by graphs I feel it's better to use a 2D FR graph rather than a CSD. It's the sum of all the energy, whereas with a CSD plot you have to guess what that is(the first frame of a CSD is not the equivalent of a FR graph).

 

But what you have there doesn't look bad, it looks similar to my attempts using FR graphs before(in terms of where rises/falls begin).

 

I use graph to get an idea why isn't sound the way "it should be" if i can say it this way and than I do Trial and Error method till I get what I want.

 

For example vocals were buried under instruments like bass guitar, at least for me, so I try add little bit gain here, than here, than here ... and so on till I get them louder/closer or something I want. Than if it's ok, I try changing BW so it doesn't affect other frequencies too much. This way I listen to different songs and check if they are still all somehow fine with every adjustment.

 

With posted EQ I was starting to be pretty much happy in nearly all music I listen to, so I was thinking I'll upload it and ask someone to try it out and tell me some feedback normal_smile%20.gif

 

@Jerg Will try it tomorrow ;) thx


Edited by Flisker - 2/27/13 at 1:58pm
post #8032 of 17024

I never had issues with the velour's comfort.. always enjoyed it actually (I like the distance it affords from the driver baffle).  Carefully adjusting the headband shape & bending the metal brackets (which the cups are attached to) has resulted in me finding a very comfortable fit with the HE-400.  For me, it was about (evenly) distributing the clamp and weight.  I simply love the comfort now.

post #8033 of 17024
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

I never had issues with the velour's comfort.. always enjoyed it actually (I like the distance it affords from the driver baffle).  Carefully adjusting the headband shape & bending the metal brackets (which the cups are attached to) has resulted in me finding a very comfortable fit with the HE-400.  For me, it was about (evenly) distributing the clamp and weight.  I simply love the comfort now.

 

Im with you there. I never had a problem with the velour stiffness, which is helped by bending the headband slightly to reduce clamp and better distribute weight. But even with no bending, it was fine for me. The way things are now I couldn't be happier with comfort, but hey, if I can squeeze that little bit more comfort out of the pads with the water mod, then why not?

post #8034 of 17024

Even with velour's softer foam, it still doesn't distribute the pressure as evenly as pleather foams. The reason being that the velour foam is 100% purely elastic and has no memory, but the pleathers use a thicker memory foam that if you use them for a few weeks, the pads actually "mold" themselves to the 3D topology of your head (so parts become thinner, parts stay thick, and the fit is complete with no pressure spots anywhere).

post #8035 of 17024
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Originally Posted by BrokeStudent View Post

I just did this "hot water soak" for my velour pads and let them dry. I must say there is quite a bit of difference in terms of comfort now. I dont detect any change in SQ but the velour is much softer around the ears and feels far less itchy. A worthy 'mod' in my opinion.

Perfect, with this and a new DAC, I think I'll be finished.
post #8036 of 17024
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Even with velour's softer foam, it still doesn't distribute the pressure as evenly as pleather foams. The reason being that the velour foam is 100% purely elastic and has no memory, but the pleathers use a thicker memory foam that if you use them for a few weeks, the pads actually "mold" themselves to the 3D topology of your head (so parts become thinner, parts stay thick, and the fit is complete with no pressure spots anywhere).

I took the pleathers and used them on my old DT770s. Yum, I think I'll leave them there.
post #8037 of 17024
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Originally Posted by teofilrocks View Post


Perfect, with this and a new DAC, I think I'll be finished.

 

I'm not sure if anyone has posted steps but this is what I did. 

 

1. Got a bucket of as hot water as my hands could stand.

2. Remove the plastic ring inside of the velour pads.

3. Soak the velour pads in the hot water bucket and get a good squeeze on the velour so the water gets deep in there. Note: Be careful not to really twist the earpad as I'd hate to see anyone rip the thin dust protector.

4. Air dry & re-assemble.

 

The foam inside of the velour pads still seems to have the same rigidity as before however the actual velour material has really softened up and the god awful itch is completely gone.


Edited by BrokeStudent - 2/27/13 at 3:20pm
post #8038 of 17024
Originally Posted by BrokeStudent View Post

I'm not sure if anyone has posted steps but this is what I did. 

 

1. Got a bucket of as hot water as my hands could stand.

2. Remove the plastic ring inside of the velour pads.

3. Soak the velour pads in the hot water bucket and get a good squeeze on the velour so the water gets deep in there. Note: Be careful not to really twist the earpad as I'd hate to see anyone rip the thin dust protector.

4. Air dry & re-assemble.

 

The foam inside of the velour pads still seems to have the same rigidity as before however the actual velour material has really softened up and the god awful itch is completely gone.

 

Thanks for that.  The last sentence (bolded) is nice to read.. I might give it a shot, just for kicks, if that's the case.  I avoided doing the pad wash cause, one, I was happy with them as is.. and, two, I worried the pads would get too 'mushy' after being soaked.  Did you detect any change in the sound?

post #8039 of 17024
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

Thanks for that.  The last sentence (bolded) is nice to read.. I might give it a shot, just for kicks, if that's the case.  I avoided doing the pad wash cause, one, I was happy with them as is.. and, two, I worried the pads would get too 'mushy' after being soaked.  Did you detect any change in the sound?

 

I can't detect any difference in sound. Since the foam inside is the same rigidity I think that the sound will stay the same. It really just softens up the material.

post #8040 of 17024
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Originally Posted by catspaw View Post

Have you got a good amp? I noticed relativly big changes from unamped to E17 and then again to Asgard amp.

Its ofc subjective but if you can try them out with a good amp.

 

I'm using the Pico amp/dac. I was considering Asgard 2 anyways, so I might pick one up along with a Bifrost. Originally I was set on the HE-500, but after all the rave reviews of the HE-400, I figured I would save some cash.

 

I'm still considering the HE-500 after my experience with the HE-400. Don't get me wrong, the HE-400 is pleasing--just not quite the religious experience I was hoping for (and might not exist with any can for me). 

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