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post #7876 of 18063
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

It'd be quite different in tonal balance and sound, so it'd just be too different to call it an upgrade.


What kind of differences are we talking about? Less midrange emphasis? Warmer? Darker? Bassier?

 

I'm a closet basshead (listening to a pair of Atrio Xs right now) with a soft spot for the HD-600s since they were my first high end headphone, but I would love to get something a bit bassier but on the same level or higher to compliment them.

post #7877 of 18063
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

You and me both dude. No need for me to upgrade anytime soon, but I may a year or two down the line.

 

 

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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

Man some of you are crazy, chasing unicorns. Constantly buying and selling the same headphone ... I'm just thankful I love my HE-400 and don't feel the need to upgrade!

 

 

I know I'm not crazy.  I know I saw a unicorn jump down a rabbit hole..  I'm chasing it now..biggrin.gif

post #7878 of 18063

Ok I guess I overreacted, but I have both these headphones and I don't get how ppl constantly compare them. I never liked HD650 actually even tho I tried (have them 4 months +-). When I got HE-400 it felt to me like damn better headphones from completely different league than HD650 and after EQ there is no way I would use HD650 any more for anything I listen to. 

 

But I don't listen to jazz but only rock/metal/pop/dance/some classics.

post #7879 of 18063
The HD650 is better suited for slower genres. I can see why you prefer the HE-400.
post #7880 of 18063
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

I know I'm not crazy.  I know I saw a unicorn jump down a rabbit hole..  I'm chasing it now..biggrin.gif

Lost cause!

 

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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

You and me both dude. No need for me to upgrade anytime soon, but I may a year or two down the line.

Yeah I could see myself looking into the HE-500 or even the HE-6 a few years down the line, or even whatever the next Hifiman headphone is but I'm still melting into my music with the HE-400 and I don't see that feeling doing away anytime soon.

post #7881 of 18063
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The HD650 is better suited for slower genres. I can see why you prefer the HE-400.

 

I prefer the HE-400s over the HD650 for Jazz in any Tempo. The brass and percussion instruments and the bass sound much better on the HE-400s.

post #7882 of 18063
Originally Posted by TheGame21x View Post

What kind of differences are we talking about? Less midrange emphasis? Warmer? Darker? Bassier?

 

I'm a closet basshead (listening to a pair of Atrio Xs right now) with a soft spot for the HD-600s since they were my first high end headphone, but I would love to get something a bit bassier but on the same level or higher to compliment them.

 

Yes.. the HE-400's midrange is very clear, but the center-mids through center treble are gently recessed (with the the center-to-upper treble boosted).. this is almost the inverse of HD-600's tuning through that same region.  The HE-400 should make "traditional" bassheads very happy in that they EQ very well (you can extensively boost the sub/mid-bass and it'll remain tight, fast, and punchy w/o getting bloated).  I've owned both the HD600 & HE-400 at the same time & I think they make excellent complementary phones.

post #7883 of 18063

I've had my HE-400s for over a month and while I've enjoyed them for some music, my primary use is for watching movies in the wee hours. I've finally found a configuration in JRMC with the original Isone Surround plugin and a few other DSPs that, combined with the HE-400s, make watching movies with headphones a real joy. I had the DT990 Pros for a bit alongside the HE-400s and I was a little concerned with the weight/comfort of the HE-400s but they sounded so good, I sent the 990s back. I've since gotten used to the weight/feel of the HE-400s and they're mostly comfortable for kicking back and watching a movie. If the film is good enough, I'll forget I'm even wearing them. 

post #7884 of 18063
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Originally Posted by korzena View Post

The electronic music I listen to a lot is not only electronic dance music. It's also ambient, minimal and soundtracks (like Dark Knight, Tron). Hence I want headphones that give me very good sense of air, spaciousness (deep, wide and tall) as well as great speed and enough "aggressiveness". And the music shouldn't sound thin - the sound should have good weight.

HE-400 satisfies me in regards to the good weight of sound, but doesn't give me enough space/air and I am not fully satisfied with its speed and 'aggresiveness'. Tizziness in treble makes the music sound chaotic for me. Although I am going to check the EQing effects.

 

If anyone knows headphones that would better suit my taste than HE-400, I'd appreciate your advice.

 

I am interested in this as well. Does anyone know of any headphones that are better than HE-400 that can do electronic music like house/trance/EDM with better soundstage, clarity, and instrument separation under $500?

 

Korzena, you own both LCD2s and HE-400s? Have you tried using the EQ TMRaven posted? Does it sound like the LCD2 at all?


Edited by cheuh - 2/24/13 at 5:49pm
post #7885 of 18063

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2621

 

I like the right 2/3rds of this graph. The bass part looks UGLY! 

post #7886 of 18063
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Originally Posted by cheuh View Post

 

I am interested in this as well. Does anyone know of any headphones that are better than HE-400 that can do electronic music like house/trance/EDM with better soundstage, clarity, and instrument separation under $500?

 

Korzena, you own both LCD2s and HE-400s? Have you tried using the EQ TMRaven posted? Does it sound like the LCD2 at all?

Under $500.00? Not that I know of... If I did, I'd own it. $500.00 was my limit too.  

post #7887 of 18063
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Originally Posted by jiggahwhat View Post

[URL=http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2621]http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2621[/URL]

I like the right 2/3rds of this graph. The bass part looks UGLY! 

Good thing that graph has nothing to do with the K702 Anniversary, which with the new memory foam pads (as well as possibly some new internal revisions) is noticeably warmer, with more bass in comparison to the non-Anniversary models. No graphs out yet, but you would be deaf not to hear the boost in bass in the Annies. wink.gif

It's the most linear of the AKG K/Q/701/2 to date.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/24/13 at 5:57pm
post #7888 of 18063

Thanks for your review and impressions.

post #7889 of 18063
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

Yes.. the HE-400's midrange is very clear, but the center-mids through center treble are gently recessed (with the the center-to-upper treble boosted).. this is almost the inverse of HD-600's tuning through that same region.  The HE-400 should make "traditional" bassheads very happy in that they EQ very well (you can extensively boost the sub/mid-bass and it'll remain tight, fast, and punchy w/o getting bloated).  I've owned both the HD600 & HE-400 at the same time & I think they make excellent complementary phones.

That answers my question perfectly, thanks!

 

Guess I'll have to start saving up! k701smile.gif

post #7890 of 18063
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Originally Posted by cheuh View Post

 

I am interested in this as well. Does anyone know of any headphones that are better than HE-400 that can do electronic music like house/trance/EDM with better soundstage, clarity, and instrument separation under $500?

 

Korzena, you own both LCD2s and HE-400s? Have you tried using the EQ TMRaven posted? Does it sound like the LCD2 at all?

I haven't tried EQ TMRaven yet, but I would like to. In his post TMRaven made HE400EQFinal2.e-q file available for download. Is it possible to upload it directly to Electri-Q? I can't find the way to do it (normally Electri-Q saves settings to fxp file)?

 

Anyway I suppose it will make HE-400 (already quite similarly sounding to LCD-2) sound even more like LCD-2, but with more air and punch as it is without EQing.

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