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2/24/13 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

Here's a different kind of question: have any of you traveled with your HE-400 or other expensive headphones? I'm going on a trip in April, via plane, and I don't think I'll be taking much more than clothes, my HE-400, HE-300, Magni, Modi and Fiio E17 on top of my Laptop and external hard drive.

 

Should I wear the HE-400 onto the plane so they aren't packed? Will I run into trouble taking them on the plane? If I pack them, is there any particular method that is recommended, or any case that might be a good idea? With the Magni and Modi, they're nicely shaped and small, I was just gonna heavily wrap those in clothes. My carry on bag will be my laptop bag with my hard drive and Kindle in it, won't be room for the HE-400 or HE-300.

 

Tips? Thoughts?I

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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

I don't want to leave the Magni and Modi. I'm not taking these things for my own personal usage, I'm taking them because my friend in California wants to hear them. If I were considering this a trip where I needed portable listening, I'd jut go with IEMs and not the HE-400 at all. As it stands, I'm taking the HE-400 and I think the Magni gives them the best sound. And I do not believe they are "basically almost the same thing." The E17 is quite muddy in comparison to the Magni. Everything opens up with the extra power, in my opinion.

 

I am not worried about the M&M in the luggage at all, they will literally be at the heart of two weeks worth of clothes with a bunch of bubble wrap around them. Trying to figure out what to do with the HE-400 though. May remove the cable and wear them on.

 

But thank you for the concern, I may do the padded backpack as carry on as opposed to my laptop back. Never really even considered getting something a little bit bigger and actually easy to carry than my laptop bag, which barely fits my hard drive in it.

How could there be risk? These things go through metal detectors when they come into the country.

Yes it can be done. I brought them along as a carry-on for a month-long trip, still alive and kicking. Was worried about the temperature change so I wrapped them in lots of towels and kept them in a very wide briefcase. Obviously twist the cables off. Metal detectors were not an issue.

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post #7847 of 10733
2/24/13 at 2:44am
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Originally Posted by jiggahwhat View Post

The HE-400s sound good when the treble is EQed. I could sell and go for the HD 650s but those aren't fast enough for electronic music or they might be boomy from what I hear. I could go for the HE-500 but I can't afford good quality amplification for it. Or I could keep an EQed HE-400. 

 

I spent a while thinking about it and I think I'm going to keep these headphones for a good while and try and buy some better warm-sounding amplification (I'm thinking the Aune T1) for them. Then down the road I'll save up for the inevitable LCD-2 upgrade. The LCD-2 seems to match what I want out of my headphones 100%, they're just out of my price range. 

 

I know it's subjective but ... don't switch HE-400 for HD650 ... imo it's like 2 levels downgrade.

 

edit : Saw someone post EQ preset so, here is the one I'am using now ... still working on it actually :) it feels like never ending run tongue_smile.gif  

 

 

 

HE400EQFinal2.zip 1k .zip file

 

 

 

If you guys made better one I would love to try it smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by Flisker - 2/24/13 at 4:43am
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post #7848 of 10733
2/24/13 at 5:16am
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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

 

I know it's subjective but ... don't switch HE-400 for HD650 ... imo it's like 2 levels downgrade.

 

edit : Saw someone post EQ preset so, here is the one I'am using now ... still working on it actually :) it feels like never ending run tongue_smile.gif  

 

 

If you guys made better one I would love to try it smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

No way...blink.gif

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post #7849 of 10733
2/24/13 at 5:22am
Thread Starter 

+ 1 Absolutely no way...rolleyes.gif

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post #7850 of 10733
2/24/13 at 5:28am

Well it's down the sound signature that suits him better. He obviously likes what the HE400 offers more than what the HD650 offers. That's to say really tight and extended bass and treble sparkle, more u shaped. I know I would prefer the HE-400's sound sig.

 

And about the EQing, I think this could really take off. Maybe with the help of the community we could come up with an ultimate HE400 EQ that fixes the HE-400's "flaws".

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post #7851 of 10733
2/24/13 at 5:33am
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

No way...blink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

+ 1 Absolutely no way...rolleyes.gif

 

Yes way, for him. The hobby is about preference and HE400's adv:disadv far outweigh HD650's from his standpoint.

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post #7852 of 10733
2/24/13 at 5:41am
Thread Starter 

^^ Exactly. I never pretend to tell people what sounds better to them. I can only tell people what sound better to me. 

 

SO...to me, there is no way that I'd put the 650 two levels below the he400. 

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post #7853 of 10733
2/24/13 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

^^ Exactly. I never pretend to tell people what sounds better to them. I can only tell people what sound better to me. 

 

SO...to me, there is no way that I'd put the 650 two levels below the he400. 

 

 

Yeah - My bad..  +1 on this Matt   IMO   There is no way the HE-400s are a 2 level upgrade to the HD650s

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post #7854 of 10733
2/24/13 at 6:01am

I think we can agree that the HD650 and HE-400 sounds quite different, and both have their pros and cons. I prefer the HD650 more. 

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post #7855 of 10733
2/24/13 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

No way...blink.gif


Definitely yes way, if I would use the HD650 on the same amp as I am using now with the HE-400. That would be the internal amp of the audinst hud-mx1 :D

 

Considering amplification price I do think the HE-400 is better than the HD650 for the price. Also, using the HE-400 with the J$s makes them sound really neutral.

With the J$s and the pleather dust screen there is absolutely no doubt, the HE-400s are technically better than the HD650s. But I wouldn't be surprised if people would still like the

HD650 more, just not on the amp I'm using now..

 

Note, I only used the HD650 with the fiio E9, so I never got to tap it's full potential.

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post #7856 of 10733
2/24/13 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

No way...blink.gif


Definitely yes way, if I would use the HD650 on the same amp as I am using now with the HE-400. That would be the internal amp of the audinst hud-mx1 :D

 

Considering amplification price I do think the HE-400 is better than the HD650 for the price. Also, using the HE-400 with the J$s makes them sound really neutral.

With the J$s and the pleather dust screen there is absolutely no doubt, the HE-400s are technically better than the HD650s. But I wouldn't be surprised if people would still like the HD650 more, just not on the amp I'm using now..

 

Note, I only used the HD650 with the fiio E9, so I never got to tap it's full potential.

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post #7857 of 10733
2/24/13 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post


Definitely yes way, if I would use the HD650 on the same amp as I am using now with the HE-400. That would be the internal amp of the audinst hud-mx1 :D

 

Considering amplification price I do think the HE-400 is better than the HD650 for the price. Also, using the HE-400 with the J$s makes them sound really neutral.

With the J$s and the pleather dust screen there is absolutely no doubt, the HE-400s are technically better than the HD650s. But I wouldn't be surprised if people would still like the

HD650 more, just not on the amp I'm using now..

 

Note, I only used the HD650 with the fiio E9, so I never got to tap it's full potential.

 

So that would make it a double no way..biggrin.gif  If you haven't taped it's full potential..  

 

Also about being technically better??  You may be getting into uncharted territories with that statement.   Just saying..

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post #7858 of 10733
2/24/13 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

Here's a different kind of question: have any of you traveled with your HE-400 or other expensive headphones? I'm going on a trip in April, via plane, and I don't think I'll be taking much more than clothes, my HE-400, HE-300, Magni, Modi and Fiio E17 on top of my Laptop and external hard drive.

 

Should I wear the HE-400 onto the plane so they aren't packed? Will I run into trouble taking them on the plane? If I pack them, is there any particular method that is recommended, or any case that might be a good idea? With the Magni and Modi, they're nicely shaped and small, I was just gonna heavily wrap those in clothes. My carry on bag will be my laptop bag with my hard drive and Kindle in it, won't be room for the HE-400 or HE-300.

 

Tips? Thoughts?

I'm thinking the official HiFIMan travel case would probably be the best bet (of if you could craft something similar).  Aside from that, you'll probably just want alot of padding and make sure they don't move alot or get crushed.  I personally wouldn't want to take them out (in the airport, etc.) until I reached my destination, so just making sure they are packed well should be sufficient.

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post #7859 of 10733
2/24/13 at 9:01am
They have similarities in warmth, but other than that, they are quite different. Enough to not really make them comparable. Chances are, if you like one, you might not like the other. One is sparkly, one is smooth. Those two things tend to be on opposite sides when it comes to love/hate.

Months ago, I would have said HE400 always, but once I got my hands on the HD650 and Annies, my tastes evolved, and I started craving mids more than treble. So if I had to choose NOW, I would have went with the 650s. It was a tough decision when I had to decide between the two months ago. A decision ccompletely different from one I would have made today.

Still, I favor the Annie more than either of those two, though they would have been too much like the HD650, so I'm sort of glad I have a different enough alternative in the HE400.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/24/13 at 9:06am
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post #7860 of 10733
2/24/13 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by richierich View Post

 

I dunno man but the HE-400s are perfect for EDM. I guess I just have an amp and DAC that matches well, and J$ pads help.

The electronic music I listen to a lot is not only electronic dance music. It's also ambient, minimal and soundtracks (like Dark Knight, Tron). Hence I want headphones that give me very good sense of air, spaciousness (deep, wide and tall) as well as great speed and enough "aggressiveness". And the music shouldn't sound thin - the sound should have good weight.

HE-400 satisfies me in regards to the good weight of sound, but doesn't give me enough space/air and I am not fully satisfied with its speed and 'aggresiveness'. Tizziness in treble makes the music sound chaotic for me. Although I am going to check the EQing effects.

 

If anyone knows headphones that would better suit my taste than HE-400, I'd appreciate your advice.


Edited by korzena - 2/24/13 at 9:41am
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