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What was the documented benefit of the felt Wayne?

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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

What was the documented benefit of the felt Wayne?

 

I'm not sure.  However, now that others have indicated that the HE-6 felt was a pre-production version. However, here is how the HE-5LE was implemented. As to benefits, changes - improvements, or not, it is about a $1.00 cost, for materials.  The only thing lost is time.

 

 

 

 

 

Also, while I did sell my pair of HE-400s, I didn't leave the HifiMAN family.  The HE-4 model was purchased yesterday and the HE-5LE was paid for today.  The HE-4 headphones are in my home now.  The HE-5LE will arrive later this week.  I'm reluctant to share too many observations between the HE-400 and the others as this process will take a bit of time to start to document these variations.  Also, while my HE-400 was sold, I do have access to a pair of HE-400s for all side-by-side comparisons. cool.gif

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I can say that after having spent some good hours with the LCD2 that is has the best bass AND mids I have heard to date. HE-400-like bass but better, and HD650-like mids but better. Yup. Treble is it's weak point, but treble is the least important part of sound for me now. More treble would take away from either the bass or mids, so I'm perfectly happy as is.

A shame about it's aesthetics, price, and comfort (not too bothersome, assuming vegan pads noticeably help). It's definitely a headphone I would be happy with alone if it was the only one I owned. The Annie feels like heaven after using the LCD2 though. They STILL continue impress me even after using the LCD2. I'm sure the HE-400 does to (I prefer the HE-400 over the Annie for music).

 

Vegan pads are similar to velour no? So im guessing that would help a lot. Im like you in that I can't stand leather anymore, velour/vegan is the way to go.

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For those of you who want an endgame sound but don't want the LCD2 (dis)comfort and prices, there's always HE500 rolleyes.gif. I prefer HE500 over LCD2 anyhow, so that more than saves $300 for me.

 

For what LCD2 offers in bass quality, HE500 offers as much in treble and openness.

 

 

I agree with jerg here.  

 

IMO the LCD-2.2 can sometimes sound like your listening to them in a closet.  They can be very congested at times.  Treble / highs are the LCD-2.2s weak point no question IMO.  The LCD-3s fixed this and the LCD-3s in turn sound more balanced with the same level bass as the LCD-2.2s.  At $1K more than the LCD-2.2s this is not an option for most.

 

Here comes the HiFiMans.  Most of the HE-Xs excel in treble and the bass and mids are more in line with the treble.  Maybe not the He-400s - can have too much treble at times.  The HE-6, HE-5LE, and the HE-500s all have a better balanced sound IMO over the LCD-2.2s.  If bass is your thing then yes the LCD-2.2s are for you - if you don't mind a congested sound when compared to HiFiman headphones.  

 

The LCD-2.2s are pretty darn seductive I must say.  However, on some Jazz trumpet passages ie.. (Miles Davis) just sounds extraordinary on the HiFimans and the LCD-2.2 sound less appealing in this case, IMO.  To be clear Miles on the HE-400s may not work for some.


Edited by preproman - 2/17/13 at 10:28am
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My HE400 are the best thing since sliced bread. That is it.
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Originally Posted by espijosh View Post

My HE400 are the best thing until I hear another model from HifiMAN. That is it.

 

I had to "fix" your statement a bit.  I don't imply that the HE-400 is bad in any way.  However, once you get to hear some of their other offerings, just watch those Benjamins start flying out of your wallet.  basshead.gif

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Random question here.....what gain would you suggest using the 400's and an E17? What about bass and treble? 

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Originally Posted by ToInfinity View Post

Random question here.....what gain would you suggest using the 400's and an E17? What about bass and treble? 

+12 gain / 0 bass / -2 treble

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

+12 gain / 0 bass / -2 treble

Thank Jerg. I also have an E9k....would you suggest anything different when hooked up to that?

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Thank Jerg. I also have an E9k....would you suggest anything different when hooked up to that?

Analyze the sound with and without E9k, and adjust accordingly.

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Toss rockbox on that iPod and you'll have full EQ.

I didn't know such a thing existed. I'll have to check that out. Thanks! beerchug.gif

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+12 gain / 0 bass / -2 treble

Here's my E17 Settings:

 

Gain: +12

Bass: +4 

Treble: -2

Volume: +45 biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

Here's my E17 Settings:

 

Gain: +12

Bass: +4 

Treble: -2

Volume: +45 biggrin.gif

That's pretty loud. With +12 gain, I usually keep volume on E17 under 30 for HE400, and under 35 for HE500. I do replaygain on all my archived music also.

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So I've had a few days with the HE-400, and I have to say, it's a bright headphone. Not overly harsh or sibilant, but it's not exactly a headphone I'd relax to and listen to for hours at a time. I'm already thinking about turning these over and going for the HE-500s. 

 

It's not bright with the pleathers but the velours are much better in mids and detail and things like that (less muddy bass) that I don't think pleather HE-400 is worth it. 

 

These kinds of headphones make a single track sound very good but it can be taxing over the course of a full-length album. 

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That's pretty loud. With +12 gain, I usually keep volume on E17 under 30 for HE400, and under 35 for HE500. I do replaygain on all my archived music also.

That's only when I'm Rocking out. I usually listen at about 30-35 when I'm just relaxing. wink.gif

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