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post #7456 of 17757
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

^^ My last post host nothing to do with the HE-400 correct. However this conversation sprouted from the amazing SQ/price ratio of the HE-400.

 

The reason I'm not taking this conversation elsewhere, is because I like the people in this thread :) Don't worry, I won't be posting reviews/comparisons of IEMs in this thread!


Relax, i wasn't complaining. Just making an observation.

 

I always get myself talking about non HE-400 stuff here aswell.


Edited by Okamoto - 2/16/13 at 2:26pm
post #7457 of 17757

^^ I know, I know.

To make that post a little more relevant to this thread: The HE-400 actually sounds very good on that setup!

post #7458 of 17757

With all this lcd2 talk.. I A/B the he400 against the lcd2/lcd3.

I found the he400 was very similar to the lcd2.
When I listened to songs with no vocals, it was hard to tell the difference.
To me, it was mainly in the vocals the LCD2 was better.
It was a little bit more natural sounding overall too.

I find a little eq'ing makes the he400 basically as good as the lcd2.
Give the settings below a go. If you get clipping, just turn the volume on the rhs down to -4db.
Sounds great for me on my NFB 15.1 with velours/grill mod (still need to try those jergpads).
I can really hear a big improvement in the vocals with this and the treble is just right for me now as well.

 

HE400 EQ

post #7459 of 17757
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

I dunno MLE.  You've been away from the D7000 long and you've transitioned your tastes to things more along the lines of HE-400, HD650, K702AE and now LCD-2.  You might be surprised if you listened to the D7000 again.

Don't think so. I went back to the M50, CAL AND DT990 after the HE-400 and HD650, and I still very much loved them. While balance has shifted, I still love v-shaped headphones and the D7000 is the best I've heard. The mids are really not that recessed on them, and the treble isn't anywhere near as fatiguing as the HE-400s. That sound is still fresh on my mind...

Also worth noting that I owned my first pair of HE-400 and D7000 at the same time, and the D7000 was very much still on top. I gave it up yet again, due to the pad discomfort.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/16/13 at 6:35pm
post #7460 of 17757
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


Don't think so. I went back to the M50, CAL AND DT990 after the HE-400 and HD650, and I still very much loved them. While balance has shifted, I still love v-shaped headphones and the D7000 is the best I've heard. The mids are really not that recessed on them, and the treble isn't anywhere near as fatiguing as the HE-400s. That sound is still fresh on my mind...

Also worth noting that I owned my first pair of HE-400 and D7000 at the same time, and the D7000 was very much still on top. I gave it up yet again, due to the pad discomfort.

I sold my M50's after getting the HE-400's.  The HE-400 mids aren't empathized by I never get the feeling I'm missing something.  With the M50's, I was.  The M50 bass was bloated and drowned out too much of the other frequencies. (At least for me)

post #7461 of 17757
I'm simply saying that I could go back to those headphones with v shaped curves, and still love them. The D7000 has less mid recession than the HE400 either way.

Tastes do change with time, but unlike lots of people on head-fi, I don't dismiss what I've liked before this point. The M50s were my first main music headphone, and I still enjoy their sound.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/16/13 at 10:50pm
post #7462 of 17757
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post

With all this lcd2 talk.. I A/B the he400 against the lcd2/lcd3.

I found the he400 was very similar to the lcd2.
When I listened to songs with no vocals, it was hard to tell the difference.
To me, it was mainly in the vocals the LCD2 was better.
It was a little bit more natural sounding overall too.

I find a little eq'ing makes the he400 basically as good as the lcd2.
Give the settings below a go. If you get clipping, just turn the volume on the rhs down to -4db.
Sounds great for me on my NFB 15.1 with velours/grill mod (still need to try those jergpads).
I can really hear a big improvement in the vocals with this and the treble is just right for me now as well.

 

HE400 EQ

I wish there was a better EQ built in to the iPod Nano. I hate the Presets they give you. Why didn't they just put a darn EQ in there! The only EQ I have available is the Bass/Treble of my E17. 

post #7463 of 17757
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

I wish there was a better EQ built in to the iPod Nano. I hate the Presets they give you. Why didn't they just put a darn EQ in there! The only EQ I have available is the Bass/Treble of my E17. 

 

Toss rockbox on that iPod and you'll have full EQ.

post #7464 of 17757
Same here, still love my xb 70 for techno. Also I'm going to the Winston Salem head fi meet. There's n LCD 2 n 3 woot :3

Also.. Wow ive had my xbs for 2 years now redface.gif
Edited by Mshenay - 2/17/13 at 4:28am
post #7465 of 17757
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlxx View Post

With all this lcd2 talk.. I A/B the he400 against the lcd2/lcd3.

I found the he400 was very similar to the lcd2.
When I listened to songs with no vocals, it was hard to tell the difference.
To me, it was mainly in the vocals the LCD2 was better.
It was a little bit more natural sounding overall too.

I find a little eq'ing makes the he400 basically as good as the lcd2.
Give the settings below a go. If you get clipping, just turn the volume on the rhs down to -4db.
Sounds great for me on my NFB 15.1 with velours/grill mod (still need to try those jergpads).
I can really hear a big improvement in the vocals with this and the treble is just right for me now as well.

 

 

Jergpads will reduce the need for eq-ing greatly. The jergpads carry a very romantic and balanced sound. I think it will bring the HE-400 even closer to the lcd2.

post #7466 of 17757
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

I wish there was a better EQ built in to the iPod Nano. I hate the Presets they give you. Why didn't they just put a darn EQ in there! The only EQ I have available is the Bass/Treble of my E17. 

 

You can also EQ your songs on iTunes, then save those EQ settings to the songs.  Re-sync the music to your iPod Nano and you're good to go.

 

However, just ensure you have a copy of your songs in another location before you permanently set the EQ adjustments.  Also, you might want to test the process on a couple of songs first to see what you think.

 

Finally, Rockbox is also a valid option as Beaver316 has pointed out.

post #7467 of 17757

If one looks at the felt damping implementation on the HifiMAN HE-6, I wonder how this might work to an advantage on the HE-400?  Here is one picture of the implementation on the HE-6 (ear side of driver.)

 

 

post #7468 of 17757
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

If one looks at the felt damping implementation on the HifiMAN HE-6, I wonder how this might work to an advantage on the HE-400?  Here is one picture of the implementation on the HE-6 (ear side of driver.)




Why are people covering up the driver with felt? Harsh highs or something?
post #7469 of 17757
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

If one looks at the felt damping implementation on the HifiMAN HE-6, I wonder how this might work to an advantage on the HE-400?  Here is one picture of the implementation on the HE-6 (ear side of driver.)

 

 

That's a prototype HE6 though, production models have none of that. A possible risk of felt is that it might make the sound "cupped".

post #7470 of 17757
I can say that after having spent some good hours with the LCD2 that is has the best bass AND mids I have heard to date. HE-400-like bass but better, and HD650-like mids but better. Yup. Treble is it's weak point, but treble is the least important part of sound for me now. More treble would take away from either the bass or mids, so I'm perfectly happy as is.

A shame about it's aesthetics, price, and comfort (not too bothersome, assuming vegan pads noticeably help). It's definitely a headphone I would be happy with alone if it was the only one I owned. The Annie feels like heaven after using the LCD2 though. They STILL continue impress me even after using the LCD2. I'm sure the HE-400 does to (I prefer the HE-400 over the Annie for music).
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/17/13 at 9:05am
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