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Originally Posted by fox350z View Post

Hello all, I have a noob question am getting this headphone and i have an e9 amp, should my gain switch be in high or low? thanks

Whatever gets between 9-12 on the volume pot. That is the E9's sweet spot (stated by the Fiio rep himself here). If both get between 9-12, I'd use whichever gain gets between 10-11.
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The E9 had some huge background noice in my case so i personally would not recommend it (thou it might not be the case for you).

I was running the E9 of my Laptop and then into E9 with a E17 docked and then out to my HE-400.

Later i moved to the Asgard and it was far way better (i was able to return the E9), still using the E17 as DAC.

I get some static from the Laptops internal circuits, but its not very loud when nothing plays, and totally imperceptible when any sound is playing.

 

Id check out the E9 first if you have a chance.

post #7323 of 18084
The Fiio E9 should be dead silent. Both my E9 and E9K were dead silent, unless I plugged them in to noisy usb ports on my computer.
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Originally Posted by fox350z View Post

Hello all, I have a noob question am getting this headphone and i have an e9 amp, should my gain switch be in high or low? thanks

 

I'd call myself a low to medium level listener, but I prefer high gain. It seems to give the bass more punch. biggrin.gif

post #7325 of 18084
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The Fiio E9 should be dead silent. Both my E9 and E9K were dead silent, unless I plugged them in to noisy usb ports on my computer.

I know, But after trying the Asgard i just wanted it rather than the E9.

Its a gaming laptop after all, so the Power supply is a 180W monster that creates a lot of static, but even when i get my Desktop up to speed i wanted the asgard. 

I think the part i disliked the most from the E9k was the Power supply adapter. It really felt like cheap plastic and i higly doubted that inside could be a decent transformator (but i might be wrong).

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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

For anyone remotely interested.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650912/he-6-ultimate-review-write-up


Good read!  Very thorough -  now I'm all the more intrigued by what the higher tier HiFiMan HE series can do.  Still extremely satisfied by what my HE-400 can do, but one day I'll hopefully get the opportunity to try others.

post #7328 of 18084

Hi everyone. So I just received the HE-400 yesterday. I have to say there are certain things these do very well but in some other areas I feel quite underwhelmed. Separation and detail are actually really good on these. comparing against the HD650's, the music is much more crisp and definitely faster. One point of concern I have is that the volume levels seems a little light.

 

My first thought was that these were not getting properly amped off of my Little Dot MkII amp. Is that amp a poor combination for the he400? I noticed when driving the senns, I wouldn't have to turn the volume knob too far for the sound to get loud. With the HE-400's however, I feel like I need to really turn the volume to get it to the same level of loudness. 

 

Another thought was that I am just a little too use to the forward mids of the sennheisers. HE-400 definitely showcases the background instruments more and the mids definitely feel like they are sharing the spotlight with the rest of the music. Maybe it is this recessed mid quality of the headphones that are causing the music to sound not as loud due to the mids not being as forward. I know that the HD650s sounded louder than the HD600s at the same volume level so my suspicion is that the HE-400 just has this characteristic due to the lower emphasis of the mids. 

 

I think the HE-400s are pretty great but I do feel I need to get used to this signature. These are definitely not what I'd consider love at first sight. I'll definitely give these a good chance and plenty of burn in. It is quite a change so I will be extensively listening to make a decision before the return window ends. I would like everyone's input though and if I am running these incorrectly. 

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I think the HE-400s are pretty great but I do feel I need to get used to this signature. These are definitely not what I'd consider love at first sight. I'll definitely give these a good chance and plenty of brain burn in. It is quite a change so I will be extensively listening to make a decision before the return window ends. I would like everyone's input though and if I am running these incorrectly. 

Fixed

Don't constantly A/B between them and the HD650, as you won't let your ears adjust to the HE-400's signature this way. Spend a few days to a week with the HE-400 ALONE, then go back to the HD650 to see what you've gained and lost.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/14/13 at 1:07pm
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+1 ^^
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Fixed

Don't constantly A/B between them and the HD650, as you won't let your ears adjust to the HE-400's signature this way. Spend a few days to a week with the HE-400 ALONE, then go back to the HD650 to see what you've gained and lost.

Haha no I get what you mean. I just received them last night so I didn't bother to even A/B them. They were just my impressions from using the HD650 for a while and then suddenly switching to these. Definitely plan to use these headphones until I get use to it then see what I truly appreciate about them.  

 

So most likely though, the volume level isn't an issue with the amp but from the sound signature difference? 

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Originally Posted by Ohnoitztotoro View Post

Haha no I get what you mean. I just received them last night so I didn't bother to even A/B them. They were just my impressions from using the HD650 for a while and then suddenly switching to these. Definitely plan to use these headphones until I get use to it then see what I truly appreciate about them.  

 

So most likely though, the volume level isn't an issue with the amp but from the sound signature difference? 

 

Well it may actually be the amp. How far up is the volume on the amp?

post #7333 of 18084
Yeah, like what's your setup?
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So is bass impact something that people say get better with the velours or am I off on this? I find myself wanting just a tad bit more bass impact out of the HE-400. I know, it's like the first negative thing I've said about these headphones. Unfortunately, I can't test as I've finally taken the velours out of their baggie and there's a small issue that I hope will get remedied!

post #7335 of 18084
The bass stays basically the exact same as with pleathers. Don't know with the mods and J$ though. People shouldn't expect basshead cans with the HE-400. They are however quite impactful and natural sounding bass. If you want emphasized bass, best go with the millions of dynamic headphones that do just that.

That being said, the HE-400 with some bass boosting is pretty hard to beat... there's a lot of potential there if you wanna go that route. The HE-400 with the E17 on +4 bass was incredibly awesome.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/14/13 at 2:03pm
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